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If you don’t understand that two people with roughly the same physical health condition can have dramatically different outcomes because of difference in initial viral load it could seem to you like suspicious data, but fairly healthy older people that inhale relatively high quantities of virus are highly likely to die.

I'm going to need to see your credentials in immunology because that's a crock of shit.

Covid is the most obvious rational hypothesis and your hysterical bias is not based on fact but some my team your team mentality that doesnt allow you to admit that somethings wrong because leftists are exploiting the problem.

I'm not "hysterical", quite the contrary. The ones being hysterical are the ones instituting snap restrictions for 10 cases of the sniffles. Cut out the projection lark.

I'm not saying that this virus doesn't exist - I'm saying that there has been deliberate obfuscation on how deadly it really is. If you exclude all of the fuckery, it's akin to being slightly worse than a bad flu season. Hell, in my country we've had one death since Christmas, and that person was a foreign national.

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I'm going to need to see your credentials in immunology because that's a crock of shit.

Reddit fallacy. I researched enough epidemiology to understand that this is the main variable in people with comparable health and greatly disparate outcomes. It wont take you that long to verify that its true.

I'm not "hysterical", quite the contrary. The ones being hysterical are the ones ....

You are also hysterical. You are insisting that the opposite is true— that there is no danger or the virus doesn’t exist, or that its the sniffles and you are basing your opinion purely on emotion and politics, not science. Too many people have died for it to be just the flu or a democrat hoax. You cannot explain it away with miscategorized car accidents

I'm saying that there has been deliberate obfuscation on how deadly it really is.

I agree. But it was deadly enought to kill half a million americans that otherwise would still be alive. It is very dangerous for people over 70 and fairly dangerous for people over 55. It is not anywhere near a bad season of flu. Its about 20 to 50 times more deadly. My neighbors son in law died of it and he was in his 40s. That is not a typical flu. Ridiculous. Several people I knew died of it and most were not very old and frail. Its really absurd to deny the severity of it.

We need to care about the well being of our seniors and not act like niggers and just let the god damned jews kill them in nursing homes. Have some fucking dignity and act like you give a shit about these murdered white people.

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that there is no danger or the virus doesn’t exist

Incorrect, and I wish you'd stop putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that the bullshit they've done to date has been over the top compared to what we're dealing with. I could understand restrictions when it first was a thing, given that they didn't know the symptoms, the treatment, or the mortality rate - but when they've realised that more than 99% of people survive it, they should have stopped. Ditto with the vaccines - give them to the vulnerable if they wish, and if anyone else wants it - but otherwise let people choose for themselves rather than coercing everyone into what is essentially a last stage clinical trial.

It is not anywhere near a bad season of flu. Its about 20 to 50 times more deadly. My neighbors son in law died of it and he was in his 40s.

Was he riddled with health issues or fat?

Have some fucking dignity and act like you give a shit

Do you know who I give a shit about as well? Those who are suffering mentally or have lost everything due to constant lockdowns and horseshit. The children who are being fucked as a result of this horseshit as well. So you can kindly fuck off with your concernfagging nonsense.

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Incorrect, and I wish you'd stop putting words in my mouth. I

I didn’t put words in your mouth. Im just summarizing the typical arguments I regularly hear around these parts for why we shouldn’t be outraged about this disease and the huge numbers of people its killed.

Those who are suffering mentally or have lost everything due to constant lockdowns and horseshit.

Once again you think theres a binary choice between submitting to irrational useless lockdowns and claiming that there is in fact a massive epidemic that killed > half a million americans prematurely. Do you believe accepting the truth about murdered americans means you have to accept leftist policies?

Every thing you say confirms my initial assesment, your only argument against tyrannical leftist lockdown is to deny covid exists. That is because you are uninformed. You feel trapped like its your only defense. Stop it.

Ivermectin is the cure. Masks work minimally in certain settings. Ivermectin works better. It works better than the vaccine because it is safer.

You don’t have to counter democrap lies by lying in the opposite direction.

You said it was in line with the flu death toll and a so-called virus that was more car accident than catastrophic illness. I brought the facts that covid is one or two orders of magnitude higher in terms of fatality and that its extremely dangerous for old people and you accused me of muddying the waters for that. That is not honest debate.

. I could understand restrictions when it first was a thing, given that they didn't know the symptoms, the treatment, or the mortality rate - but when they've realised that more than 99% of people survive it, they should have stopped. Ditto with the vaccines - give them to the vulnerable if they wish, and if anyone else wants it - but otherwise let people choose for themselves rather than coercing everyone into what is essentially a last stage clinical trial.

I agree with most of that. I dont agree with the restriction regime. Or the vaccine. They are not pushing those to save people. They are exploiting the crisis to make money and grab power.

I wonder if the fact that thats true means people aren’t really dying? Ya think?

Nope. Its a very bad disease. It was created by the government. Its really killing people, alot of people. They are on the old side and it doesn’t matter, their lives still matter.

Again you are trying to minimized their murder because you don’t understand this disease and you think that the only way to “win” is to claim that its not a bid deal.

There is a cure. A CURE.

Distribution ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine can preven almost all covid deaths. Prophylactic ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine weekly dosing can prevent infection in old people cheaply and with BETTER safety than the vaccine.

> Incorrect, and I wish you'd stop putting words in my mouth. I I didn’t put words in your mouth. Im just summarizing the typical arguments I regularly hear around these parts for why we shouldn’t be outraged about this disease and the huge numbers of people its killed. >Those who are suffering mentally or have lost everything due to constant lockdowns and horseshit. Once again you think theres a binary choice between submitting to irrational useless lockdowns and claiming that there is in fact a massive epidemic that killed > half a million americans prematurely. Do you believe accepting the truth about murdered americans means you have to accept leftist policies? Every thing you say confirms my initial assesment, your only argument against tyrannical leftist lockdown is to deny covid exists. That is because you are uninformed. You feel trapped like its your only defense. Stop it. Ivermectin is the cure. Masks work minimally in certain settings. Ivermectin works better. It works better than the vaccine because it is safer. You don’t have to counter democrap lies by lying in the opposite direction. You said it was in line with the flu death toll and a so-called virus that was more car accident than catastrophic illness. I brought the facts that covid is one or two orders of magnitude higher in terms of fatality and that its extremely dangerous for old people and you accused me of muddying the waters for that. That is not honest debate. >. I could understand restrictions when it first was a thing, given that they didn't know the symptoms, the treatment, or the mortality rate - but when they've realised that more than 99% of people survive it, they should have stopped. Ditto with the vaccines - give them to the vulnerable if they wish, and if anyone else wants it - but otherwise let people choose for themselves rather than coercing everyone into what is essentially a last stage clinical trial. I agree with most of that. I dont agree with the restriction regime. Or the vaccine. They are not pushing those to save people. They are exploiting the crisis to make money and grab power. I wonder if the fact that thats true means people aren’t really dying? Ya think? Nope. Its a very bad disease. It was created by the government. Its really killing people, alot of people. They are on the old side and it doesn’t matter, their lives still matter. Again you are trying to minimized their murder because you don’t understand this disease and you think that the only way to “win” is to claim that its not a bid deal. There is a cure. A CURE. Distribution ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine can preven almost all covid deaths. Prophylactic ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine weekly dosing can prevent infection in old people cheaply and with BETTER safety than the vaccine.

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