>To leftists, choice is moral; like, if you made a choice freely, then it is moral, and anything that constrains choice is immoral. >leftists are libertarians/capitalists What? That is complete rubbish, they absolutely despise choice, they are all about obligation and ordering other people to do things for some greater good, if they truly believed like you said, then they would support something like a business refusing to serve niggers, or the right of someone to expose the holohoax on some university grounds. In case you haven't noticed, they hate the freedom of individual choice, they blame anything-goes capitalism for much of the world's problems, they want to force people to do all manner of things, and all of this is their moral position. >Normal people understand that true morality stems from the intentions and more importantly, the outcome, of one’s choices. >Normal people think like utilitarian rationalists LOLNO, they do not, people are not rational vulcans, try talking to one of them in such terms, they will emphatically reject you. Asking them things like "what's the harm/good of X?" often gets you a strong emotional response, their values are not based on pragmatism at all. The morality of a normal person is more based on their own individual comfort, and conforming with their immediate social environment. What world do you even live in?