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Electric cars create less pollution even after factoring for a centralized plant. Combustible engines are far less efficient than electric. Plus electric cars have less moving parts, and cost less to charge up. Once the prices of electric cars fall down once big manufacturers come in the next few years, electric will become more appealing to mainstream consumers. Unless you are someone that needs to go through a desert or somewhere extremely rural, electric will become the norm in 1-2 decades.
Yeah 500kg heavier cars with half the range and 5x the refuel time sounds like progress to me. EV has unimaginably shit energy density and no amount of cope about "efficiency" will change that.
1st paragraph:
Electric vehicles tend to produce more pollutants from tire and brake wear, due in large part to their batteries, as well as the other parts needed to propel them, making them heavier. These pollutants are emitted when electric vehicle tires and brakes deteriorate as they accelerate or slow down while driving.
That's some serious grasping at straws.
- This ignores the regen braking impact which means brake pads (on average) last longer on electric vs ICE engines. If the author doesn't talk about this he is either an idiot or a lier who has an agenda.
- Tesla Model S weighs in at 4800 lbs. Picked at random, trying to match size and performance: Audi S6 weighs in at 4500 lbs. That's noise.
- Seriously? Starting the argument with brake and tire particulates? Even if what the author said _was_ true ... that's noise compared to the real costs of the ICE fuel consumption vs. the coal fired plant fuel consumption.
Yeah, sorry ... I'm sure the author had something interesting to say, but I stop reading when the first paragraph is absolute rubbish.
Well, that's a dumb thing to look at. I'd start with the amount of earth that has to be moved to make the batteries. I'm not saying I know, but it seems like a dirty and energy intensive process to mine all those materials.
All US cars are ridiculously overweight these days (due to safety and emissions regulations -- the motors keep getting smaller). It masks the weight of the batteries. Try comparing a Lotus Elise with a Tesla Roadster.
Yep. The link is complete bullshit. But keep in mind, many here believe ICE is more efficient than power plants. Their basic understand of anything is kindergarten.
That's some serious grasping at straws.
Especially since most electric cars don't even use friction braking unless you slam on the brakes hard ... like lock the seatbelts.
Lol I can't wait or new green taxes to handle all that recycling and disposal of hazardous waste and metals.
Wrong on every point, that's impressive.
Electric cars require many pounds of lithium to make the batteries, lithium is strip-mined by bulldozing the entire top half of a hill off. The electricity is still generated by, in the USA, mostly coal or natural gas power plants. The transmission cables are aluminum and up to 13% of the electricity generated in the USA just vanishes into waste heat due to resistance. In contrast, the fuel efficiency of a modern internal combustion engine is incredible, far beyond that of the turbines that generate most of our electricity. So an electric car uses electricity that was generated inefficiently (compared to an internal combustion engine), transmitted inefficiently, and stored inefficiently in a battery system that requires a mining operation removing and processing several tons of soil to produce. GTFO of here with your grade-school propaganda.
I'll add to that, I'll copy and paste my comment.
Worst part is the massive amount of increase in size the grid will have to be to handle the daily energy transfer of electricity for automobiles.
Electricity will become much more expensive when EVs are the norm. More power lines, transformers, and maintenance will be needed. Solar will become more common, but the demand will be massive and so will the price to buy panels.
I wouldn't be surprised if electricity becomes 5x more expensive if all automobiles are EVs.
Then, when a new battery tech comes out, all that lithium will become worthless and dumped where convenient, destroying the wildlife.
Yeah, you're correct on all points, isn't it infuriating when these normalfags can't even be bothered to do more than barely scratch the surface of a topic before they put on their cheerleading outfits and start chanting Rah Rah?
The guiding principle of this Universe is that There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. You don't just slap an electric motor and about a thousand laptop batteries into a car chassis and announce that you just saved the fucking world. You have to do a lot better that that lazy shit before you can ratchet this species up another technological notch.
You are only analyzing, and poorly, one side of the equation. Look at the costs of drilling and transporting oil, the refinery process, the metals and components of the combustion engine(the whole engine, metals used, need for coolant, oil, all the way through to the muffler). If you want to talk about mining lithium then you also need to talk about mining palladium used in catalytic convertors for instance.
When you do a proper analysis, electric cars are much much cleaner. Not better necessarily, but definitely cleaner.
You silly person, the oil needs to be drilled and transported for your pretty little Tesla too, did you already forget that we use fossil fuels to power our electrical grid? The natural gas that provides most of the power (next to coal) is a by-product of the oil drilling industry. Take away that oil drilling industry, and half the electric power turbines in the USA grind to a halt within weeks. And the metals in a combustion engine are stable easily-recyclable non-toxic metals. Is Lithium any of those things? Now go crack open a book before your skull implodes.
There is only 2g of palladium in a converter, maybe even less if we didn't have to have over regulations. Where as a battery car will have several kilograms of lithium.
You make it seem that half the car is palladium.
Also, one day that lithium will be useless when the next battery tech comes out. Trillions of tons of lithium will become useless worldwide when all cars are EV and many of it will be dumped carelessly, killing wildlife more so than petroleum ever did.
Stop conflating EVs and batteries You instantly lost all credibility.
EV's contain batteries, you infinite nesting series of chuckleheads.
bulldozing the entire top half of a hill... you stated strip the entire hill and then create a crater out of a MOUNTAIN wrong.
Know who just got a Tesla in order to save the world? Andrea Ocasio-Cortez. The Electric Vehicle fags are in great company.
electric main flaw is the re-charging times, they are absurd for travelling long distances, i can fill up in 3 minutes or 3hrs?
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