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Electric cars average 55k

According to TrueCar:

  • Nissan Leaf S+ (250 miles range): $29,992 ($22,492 after federal tax credit).
  • Chevy Bolt (250 miles range): $27,259 ($19,759 after federal tax credit)

It takes hours to charge the battery, and they can go about 200 -250 miles per charge.

How often do you drive your car more than 250 miles every 8 hours?

How much to charging stations cost to put in?

If you don't already have a 220V outlet in the garage for an electric dryer, about $250 for another one.

I mean it doesn't make sense. It doesn't to me.

There's no way it doesn't make sense unless you regularly drive more than 250 miles a day (91,000 miles per year).

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250 is not enough for most Californians and probably most Texans.

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Uh. What Californian or Texan drives more than 90,000 miles per year?

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Anyone who lives in Oranage County and drives to LA. Any military service member who lives in Temecula. Anyone who lives in North San Diego County and works downtown.

Because California is so expensive, many own property inland.

Also, California is 500 miles long. You literally can't go anywhere cool in California if you only have an electric vehicle.

Texas... everything cool to do is more than 250 apart.

So... useless. Yes. Not the hyperbolic 90k per year... though it does exist... but useless.

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It's enough for 80% of all Americans and 90% of all Europeans.

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250 mile range is for poor people.

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LOL. The average American drives 35 miles a day. They would be fine charging once per week. With a fuel cost ranging from 2 to 3 cents per mile economics is going to drive gasoline passenger cars out of the market, but there will always be conspiracy theorists claiming that market forces are some plot against them. I would enjoy finding the conspiracy theories surrounding the replacement of horses with gas cars. I bet it was about how it was a trick to enrich oil and steel barrons.

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What about truckers? How much does it cost to charge the car? Electric bills? How many solar panels would it take to charge these batteries? How much to put in charging stations? This isn't a great idea. Where are we going to get the minerals from? Human rights violations are also a common issue with this.

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Electric isn't suitable for trucking at this time.

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We're just now reaching batteries where local electric trucking makes sense.

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What about truckers?

We're just now reaching batteries where local electric trucking makes sense.

How much does it cost to charge the car?

Couple of bucks.

How many solar panels would it take to charge these batteries?

Irrelevant. Electricity is electricity. Most comes from nuclear, coal, and NG.

How much to put in charging stations?

Ranges from free to several multiples of local residential service. For long trip, about half the cost of gas for same distance. Home power is much cheaper, especially since you can benefit from off peak hour rates.

Where are we going to get the minerals from?

We have two closed mines here. Right now most comes from China. We have many other places in the US which can be mined. Many other locations outside the US have these minerals. Hostile government and weaponized EPA prevents domestic mining. To China's benefit.

Each generation of battery technology successfully reduces dependence on these minerals. Several big pushes in battery technology almost completely moves away from them.

Human rights violations are also a common issue with this.

Batteries are here to stay regardless of EV use. EV significantly encourages product and price innovation, working to improve everything faster. Stopping EVs simply means those abuses persist longer and smaller scales.

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Do you think we should have a choice?