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And a total lack of borders + demographic management.

*borders and demographics controlled by property owners and their communities rather than commie jews and central bankers.

Borders are an inseparable part of private property, which along with self ownership is the cornerstone of libertarianism.

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The Commies and central bankers have just made a claim to all of the property. Who are you to argue with that? Seems like you've got no choice but to defend your own claims to your ownership. What do you do?

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The Commies and central bankers have just made a claim to all of the property. Who are you to argue with that?

Ok. And if I simply claim to be the king of all monarchies who are monarchists to argue with that? If I simply claim to have won all the elections who are republicans to argue with that? If I simply declare I'm the fuhrer of all natsoc regimes who are the natsocs to argue with that?

Seems like you've got no choice but to defend your own claims to your ownership. What do you do?

Fight.

Your argument has nothing to do with libertarianism. Any community has to defend itself against invaders.

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Ok. And if I simply claim to

Sure, you could. But you'd have to do something about the claim. They are acting like their claim is true. If you acted like your claims were true, you'd probably get shut down. So if they are acting like their claims are true, and it looks like they are based on everything happening, then why aren't they true?

Fight.

They'll fight you on the basis of their claims.

Who is morally right? Or maybe we could say, who is truthfully right? Is there an objective claim possible to say that the Commies are wrong? Or just unbeaten?

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Borders are an inseparable part of private property

So then the cheap-labor loving fags who run ranches and farms along the border in Texas can, in a libertarian order, opt to allow illegals to come right in?

Is it OK by libertarianism that these property owners have stymied for decades the construction of a border wall? What about those useful idiot indians who didn't want their Great Orange Father to build a wall through "their" land?

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So then the cheap-labor loving fags who run ranches and farms along the border in Texas can, in a libertarian order, opt to allow illegals to come right in?

To their ranches? Yes. To your community? No. Only you and your community can do that. I predict that most communities would prefer not to be diverse given the choice. Even the ones that say they value diversity.

Is it OK by libertarianism that these property owners have stymied for decades the construction of a border wall?

Yes. Those kinds of problems are the result of centralising things like border control into the hands of a federal megacorp.

What about those useful idiot indians who didn't want their Great Orange Father to build a wall through "their" land?

Let them have diversity. Then show up with film crews to document the result and see how many other useful idiots actually want diversity.

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So libertarianism does not believe in a conventional nation. How would it stop the illegals on the ranch from going out into the rest of what I'll call the country?

How would public utilities work in the libertarian order? How would this border ranch (or anyone) get, say, electricity?