By my logic quadruple amputees aren't four-limbed, able-bodied persons. Yes, mentally ill troons were born with the biology of the man, but they mutilated themselves and have taken tons of shit that fucks up their hormones. Again, I'm not arguing at all that doing this makes them any more of a woman (it obviously doesn't). My point is that, if we consider a man's biology includes producing sperm, having a dick, and being able to reproduce, some of them lose some of that functionality and become freaks without any clear purpose. Look at it this way - a sports car is a sports car. Then somebody removes the V12 engine and replaces it with a busted V4. Is it still a sports car? It has most of the characteristics of a sports car (body, style, other components) but it no longer serves its originally intended function. Now it's just a 2-ton hunk of metal with mismatched components and an underpowered engine that doesn't work. Same for a tranny with a meat hole that never stops bleeding and oozing pus. I'm really just making a nitpicky semantics argument here. The point is, once trannies go from cross-dressing to genital mutilation and hormone therapy, they literally become freaks with no biological purpose or identity.