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[–] [deleted] 8 pts

The phases extend through their 20s too if the parents don't raise them well. Tons of women go to college to "find themselves." A good father would have arranged her marriage before then, just like a good father would have stopped any sex transition.

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just like a good father would have stopped any sex transition.

It’s unfortunately not that easy, friend. You shouldn’t be quick to blame fathers when the government can literally take away your kids and force you to reinforce their mental illness.

You prob already know about the Texas father and how his ex-wife pushed to transition their son. There’s also this Canadian guy (youtube.com)

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That's when a good father would start killing.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

You are correct. The government has tremendous power over parents, but you can still effectively arrange marriages for your children. Enough association with childhood friends and support for marriage and family is a huge boon for marriage, and it effectively arranges their lifelong marriages. It's courtship, the most common European arranged marriage system, and Whites have used it for millennia. (((They))) will stop at nothing to get Whites to move for jobs to effectively make this system immensely difficult for fathers.

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This right here.

Moving your kids away from their "tribal" companions is really unhealthy. They form lifelong bonds early, and forcing a single break ruins their concept of community.

Pick a good community and stick to it until their cognitive abillities are developed.

Tearing kids from their friends while they are young damages them permanently.

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Arranged marriages are not a feature of northern european societies.

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They are if you go back far enough. Arranged marriage is a spectrum where the arranged part is the "let's all do this peacefully" and the opposite end of that is "let's go kill the other tribe and get all their women".

The romans documented that german tribes had a ritualized yearly war party system where on a yearly basis they would gather up allies in a systematic way and go and kill other tribes.

The part of our mating ritual that puts 'i gotta find my romantic soulmate' on a pedestal is really a modern invention. It has it's place as a component of our mating ritual but it is highly corrosive in the idealized form that it takes in western society.

That isn't to say that our women were chattle or anything of that sort. They were also incredibly powerful throughout ancient history and men were, more often than not, physical manifestations of female power.

What I am saying is that it has always been far more complicated than how relationships are portrayed in western civilization currently. What we think of relationship and marriage in the west is a kind of fairy tale for adults. it's overly simplified and leads to a whole scurge of problems that we don't talk about or deal with.

It is also to say that, if I am honest, arranged marriages have a bunch of positives that most people don't appreciate until you have seen this first hand: an arranged marriage starts the relationship off as a utilitarian union that "can" result in true love through an arbitration of respect and submission to the realities of a relationship between the parties.

I have seen this work successfully in east indian cultures now like a half dozen times. The young couples are all still together at least a dozen years later and all seem happy, adjusted and have kids, large extended families and most of them even have great jobs and homes.

It's simple and complicated at the same time. More needs to be written and explored here.

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You’re wrong. Except for the aristocracy northern europe almost exclusively practiced self select marriage and late age marriage for wahmens. Arranged marriages are for asians. Maybe elites to cement poliical and economic alliances. Its just not true, this narrative that some men push here that arranged marriage and early marriage are normal for europeans. They aren’t.

Im not a fucking bengali and I dont care how they do shit. The church allowed marriages without parental consent. Thats because it was normal for whites to choose for themselves.

Parents and fathers arrange marriages based on what is good for them. Ie money. But they dont have to fuck the guy. What is the result? Indians are horrifically inbred. Oh you dont think thats a feature of arranged marriages eh? Northern Europeans have postponed marriage to a late age and allowed individuals to choose for themselves. Since pre-christian times.

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I think now that women were better off when considered property. It resulted in keeping themselves valuable and having others around them like a father or brothers that also wanted to keep them valuable. Now most women despise the idea of being property not only because of false assumptions, but because they wouldn't be worth much of anything.

>It's simple and complicated at the same time. More needs to be written and explored here.

You are absolutely correct. Early Germany had its culture summarized by Tacitus, and there's a lot of information about how Whites used to marry. (sourcebooks.fordham.edu) I think it's better to consider White history for White traditions, although you do bring up interesting points with East Indian cultures.

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You sound like a honey badger.

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marriage in the west is a kind of fairy tale for adults

It's a fairy tale for burnt out feminist degens living in denial that they can never have real love after destroying their pairbonding capacity.

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I have seen this work successfully in east indian cultures now like a half dozen times.

You've traveled to east india?

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There were plenty of arranged marriages in Europe, particularly of note in the nobility; however it was relatively prevalent among commoners as well, fathers would often find suitors for their daughters, generally in a marriage of convenience to bring wealth into a family. And even if a union of man and women occurred organically, a marriage would not usually take place without the fathers' blessing.

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It was not. It virtually only occured in the upper classes, especially in northern europe.

The law allowed for couples to marry without parental consent. That was what age of consent meant. It was the age at which you could marry against your father’s wishes.

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Do you see any of the sperm donors in the picture behind her. The "we" she was referring to was herself and the other 3 kids by 3 other males.

I was soooooo drunk I didn't know what I was doing 20 years ago judge!!! Ruin this guys life now!!!

Judge I met this woman once at a college party. I could tell from her crazy eyes I needed to leave the situation immediately. But she grabbed my hand and put them on her breasts and yelled rape!

Back them the whole party just yelled and congratulated me on getting to 1st base.

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A good father would have arranged her marriage before then

Do you have daughters?