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[–] 15 pts

this is the result of being a bad mom.

my son is a little over 1. We dont have an alexa, we dont watch tv when he is awake. we spend as much time outside as possible.

technology isnt to blame. the fault lies on people who have delegated their RESPONSIBILITY to raise their children to a fucking ipad.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

Exactly, I stay off my phone when around my niece, my sis has the same "no screens" policy as you. If your kid mistakes Alexa as his mom that's because Alexa gives him more attention than you do.

She could do her job as the mother but she'd rather spend her time telling other bad moms how much she sucks at parenting...while her kid is probably watching Youtube.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Exactly. Alexa is clearly the primary caregiver. You know, between her career and her me time, she just has trouble scheduling the kid in.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Yeah but here in lies the rub right, people are irresponsible pieces of shit...

Aldous Huxley who all but directly predicted this outcome (where the state supplants parents) in A Brave New World (and has already been brought up in the comments) also held the opinion that LSD, which he loved and didn't want to give up, was ultimately unfit for the general public. He saw the mind blowing potential of LSD when used with care but knew full well that society was not a reflection of himself and that acid in the hands of the masses was a disaster. Ultimately he advocated that it should be restricted to be used only academics and artists such as himself. Technology is just the same, right now only a handful of very thoughtful and methodical people have the knowledge to do truly dangerous things with it but it gets easier every day, the technology's choatic potential grows stronger and stronger and access gets easier and easier in accordance with Moore's Law.

Furthermore technology gives the powerful direct control over the weak, in the same way that soma (the addictive/pacifying drug in BNW) did. Even if used responsibly by the masses (which it won't be) the powerful will abuse it to gain/maintain control and once one highly controlled and efficient society exists on a large scale and can exert power and influence (cough China cough) the evolutionary arms race will push every other nation into taking the same horrific path. The same way the cold war pushed the US into federalization, bureaucracy and espionage, so too will the Chinese cold war be the death of individualism, freedom and humanity.

I hate to say it but I think Ted was right, we are in a progress trap and technological advancement has given the elite around the world the tool set to actually succeed in enslaving humanity in near perpetuity, if not directly destroy it. It's not an if but a when and for how long the resources last to facilitate such a reality.

[–] 1 pt

Thoughtful post, thanks

I don't think you know enough about the Huxley family if you are trying to claim that Brave New world was some type of warning. The Huxleys ARE technocratic elite. I suggest you look into Julian Huxley

[–] 1 pt

From the correspondence with Orwell he seems to just have wanted to be the one who predicted the dystopian future most accurately. I looked into him a little bit but I'm not obsessed, I did read BNW IIRC It is a warning in some sense, it's been a long time but the main character decries his society and chooses to live with the 'savages' IIRC? I haven't read The Island or Doors of Perception though. Also yeah he literally thought LSD should be the play thing of the wealthy elite and over socialized academics because of his personal desire to continue using it, it's an incredibly pretentious double standard. I just thought it was an interesting parallel and BNW was like one of like 3 books I actually enjoyed being assigned.

[–] [deleted] -1 pt

This is a long-form way of saying "I am a subversive that demands Whites give up their technology because, as a fellow White, you should think of the children!!!!! Now excuse me while I give out White tech to myself, my kin, and my shitskin pets."

[–] 1 pt

Fuck off dude, I ain't a kike because I see the writing on the wall. Did I ever say we should just roll over and die? I said this is is what lies down our current path of consumer electronic decadence under silicon valleys un-elected overlords. This is what will come from the despotic use of technology like GPS, drones, nuclear war heads. Even if we outlaw these things here our enemies and rivals would use them to crush us. The arms race implies that never again will society be divorced from technology, nuclear reactors/weapons made that clear almost a century ago. I'm pointing out that it doesn't stop there and that the treadmill is going to get faster. You would need a global 'butlerian jihad' to change the course of history now, and we are going to come face to face with the truth behind the Fermi Paradox one way or another and very soon (at least on a galactic time scale).

I'm Cassandra screaming to deaf ears. Call it futile, call it impotent, call it ironic given the platform, or prove me wrong but don't call me a kike you dimwitted fagot.

If I were to have kids, which I won't but this is just for the sake of discussion, I wouldn't be as strict as some here.

Why? Because I was raised with plenty of screens around me and I turned out to be a Nazi. Can't get much better than that.

Now when the kid is still a baby then... Duh. Screentime isn't much of an option because babies give no fucks. When they hit 4 or 5 though, I've got a backlog of games and stuff they could play if they care to. Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, a couple older Star Wars games, just generally fun stuff that was around before things were too far gone.

Of course, and this really should go without saying, it isn't as if I'd let the kid play it 24/7. Nonono... Swimming, hunting, fishing, little RC drones because those things are cool as fuck, and whatever else smaller me gets into. Hopefully he/she likes shooty-pew things. Start off with a BB gun to learn how to shoot with both eyes, bump up to a .22, then a .223/5.56, then big chonk boolets once they're old enough to not get put on their ass by the recoil or scope themselves.

I've seen it with my own eyes plenty of times and I know exactly where parents go wrong: It's when they're handing their phone off to the kid to shut them up to play angry birds or whatever the fuck. I didn't have my own phone until 7th grade, and it was a dinky little flip phone (Though I'll admit I do kinda miss it.). If you're going to give 'em games and movies to watch, make sure you know what it is first. It's that easy.

[–] 1 pt

Have kids. You might be the father of the next Furher!

I get your argument to an extent, but screens when we were growing up aren't the screens of today. I think it was far less possible to get addicted to 32 and 64 bit video games the way kids now get hook. I too have SNES and N64 games and consoles that I'm excited to share with my son some rainy day in the future. However, I want him to be far more excited about playing outside in said rain if I will let him.

And you are right about the phone hand off to quiet them down. Seen it far too often myself. I get it, fussy kids can really grind your nerves. But ultimately being a parent is hard work in the early years and these people need to step up to the challenge they took upon themselves.

I'm a pretty carefree kinda guy but the thought of failing my kids like some parents are doing these days scares the shit out of me