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Act now or pay later. Take back America. Maybe start a new country like the last gents living under tyranny. Start using non-fed money and take their power. Just do SOMETHING. They don't give a shit. Anyone, not awake now is lost for good. The info war is over. You're just wasting your time.

Act now or pay later. Take back America. Maybe start a new country like the last gents living under tyranny. Start using non-fed money and take their power. Just do SOMETHING. They don't give a shit. Anyone, not awake now is lost for good. The info war is over. You're just wasting your time.

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Your point has merit. I envision taking over small communities and turning them into economic free zones. Defy state agencies with force of arms. Defy state laws that stifle innovation and free enterprise. Food coops for farmers and shoppers.

This is what I saw in Russia which couldn't have been done under Soviet rule. When the Soviet distribution and state run food supply stores collapsed, locals set up their own version of farmer's markets. Everyone who has a product comes to town center to sell their produce, what ever it is. I shopped in two cities. Obninsk and Shakhty. Shakhty I stayed at for about 15 days and went to market at least every other day so about seven times. Obninsk I stayed for three days and went shopping twice. Same system in both cities. You go and taste test food at various stalls, you're allowed to spit out what you reject on the ground for passing stray dogs which frequent the area unmolested and if you take the sample without spitting it out it's customary that you're going to make a small purchase. I found bread stalls, stalls for eggs, yogurt, cheese, meat (No one taste tests the raw meat of course, you just go by appearance), fish, both raw and smoked, pickled produce, fresh produce, etc. Then you can go over to the non food areas where local people have all sorts of home built stuff along with odds and ends of used tools and stuff like a swap meet here in USA. The owners of the land where the booths are have both indoor and outdoor booths. The indoor ones are just long concrete platforms in double rows with sellers in between and aisles on either side for customers or around the edges more permanent booths with side partitions and glass displays. I understood the people running the booths paid for their spot, sort of like renting. Outside was booths much like our American swap meet. These daily markets are mostly unregulated and I assume everyone skips on taxes. The local governments would risk a riot if they tried to shut them down at this point since it's been going on now for several decades since the USSR collapsed. You can of course go to a regular grocery store but in comparison the prices at the store are much higher with crap processed food many of the locals despise. So there's not near as much customers at the local grocers.

Old Soviet style taxation and regulation tries to hang on but is undercut by unregulated and untaxed black market which can easily be found by asking a local. One shoe store we went to was in a basement. No signage, just word of mouth. Most of the shoes were crap with a few good ones on shelves. I'm suspecting that the clothes for sell in the local market were untaxed and unreported.

We have similar here in the states called flea markets. Not sure if they're paying taxes, but I'm thinking not as transactions are cash only. I wonder... Is this enough to change the tide? If everyone sold tax free, for sure. But, flea markets are likely just an annoyance at the moment to them.

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You can think that but when 95 percent of the population ONLY shops at the open markets, you'd be wrong. If the Russian federation tried to stop it there would be riots. I've seen workers at the coal mine throw shit fits when they weren't paid and the police just went back to the station to smoke cigarettes.

when 95 percent of the population ONLY shops at the open markets, you'd be wrong.

I bet! I think we're on our way here in the states. I'm not very familiar with Russia's government at the moment, but did this actually give power to the people? Or was it just more of a necessity from their labor being taxed to hell? It kind of sounds like maybe their paychecks are taxed so high, they have to avoid sales tax.

I'm not being a smart ass. I genuinely want to know.

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Old Soviet style taxation and regulation tries to hang on but is undercut by unregulated and untaxed black market which can easily be found by asking a local.

In the US there isn't that kind of social cohesion, at best you'll have people assuming you're an undercover cop trying to bust unapproved garage sales, at worst you'll be lead to an ambush by non-whites who are just out for blood, and any sort of unofficial store would have people talking about it on phones and online, the police would be there before your first customer, if more than a couple people in the country were caught trying to run unregulated stores then there would be a war on illegal shopping that would make the alcohol prohibition a minor footnote in the history books.

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That's why we have Craig's List and Ebay.