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[–] 10 pts

I've actually grappled with a legless man, wrestling- it's very difficult because you can't shoot a takedown on them. You have to get down sort of on your knees, and wrestle the way they do. He was very strong in the upper body, and if he gets ahold of your leg, you're going to the ground.

I'm not parroting the bullshit Hollywood nonsense of "disabilities are actually super powers"; like a blind person having other senses so powerful they can kickbox. I am saying that a person with a disability such as an amputation creates variables in the fight that most people have never seen.

There is a massive psychological edge that the disabled person has- if this legless kid gets beaten up by the nigger with legs, everyone's going to look at the legless guy as a victim. "Of course he got beaten up, he's got no legs!" But the nigger with legs has a lot to lose- if he gets beaten up by the legless kid, he'll never live it down. "You got beaten up by a nigga with no legs, you a bitch!" will be this nigger's life from now on. If that is in your mind when you're going into a fight, you're probably going to lose.

Here's a video of an MMA fighter, Nick Newell, who is missing his left arm just below the elbow. He's able to use the stump and strange shape of the arm to do bizarre shit and defeat healthy fighters, including chokes, joint locks, even manhandling fighters with suplexes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-kCLOO2HA

So laugh all you'd like. Just remember that humans are remarkably adaptable, and if they have the will to overcome, they can do it.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

I've watched a legless guy wrestle. It shouldn't be allowed. Wrestling is by weight. Similarly matched person test their skill against each other. Normal people don't practice on legless people, but legless practice on normal people. All of the weight that would be on his legs is literally on his upper body and arms creating a huge disparity between them.

[–] 1 pt

I've watched a legless guy wrestle. It shouldn't be allowed.

I agree. It muddies the waters of the sport far too much. Where do you draw the line? Is there an objective way to show that a legless man is a match for a talented professional fighter?

Nick Newell (the 1 and 1/2 armed MMA fighter) could probably beat up/choke about 70% of the planet's males in a fight. He could smash a skull with that elbow nub. Why doesn't he have to have some kind of padding on his nub? I'd much rather take a hook from a 4 oz. gloved fist, than a hook from that bare nub. The nub is basically his elbow- that's not going to break, no matter what. Hands break from punching all the time. Newell went on a tear through the low-mid talent, going undefeated in like a dozen fights! Choking the shit out of guys with his bizarrely shaped, maimed arm that actually functions fantastically for grappling- it has a natural hook shape which facilitates a few chokes that cannot be done by an unmaimed fighter.

But then you put him up against really good fighters... and this happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzKXjeck5w4

I felt weird about halfway through round 1. This nagging voice in the back of my head- "This isn't right, this should be stopped." And how does it end? Newell gets split open above his left eye, badly, because he can't block incoming right hands very well... and he was fighting Justin fucking Gaethje. And then he gets viciously KO'ed after looking like an amateur, desperately trying to use his unique nub skills to cling onto his opponent. And it was just wrong, but nobody wanted to step in and stop it because they'd be accused of "holding him down just because he's disabled".

As for wrestling, you're spot on- a legless man's center of gravity is like a whole foot or more away from a whole man's. Look, we want kids to have fun and be able to participate in sports.... but they're not going to allow the 100 lbs., noodly freshman join the varsity football team as a linebacker, because he'll get hurt. But they make exceptions for disabled people, no exceptions for unfit people.

Some people just aren't cut out for certain things. People who are missing limbs should not be competing in combat sports, unless there's a whole league for amputees or something. This is a cruel reality of life, which has been swept under the "tolerance, acceptance, and participation trophy" rug.

[–] 0 pt

I've watched a legless guy wrestle. It shouldn't be allowed.

I share the same thoughts with kick boxing.

Ever heard the phrase, "Busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking competition."?

[–] 2 pts (edited )

... if this legless kid gets beaten up by the nigger with legs, everyone's going to look at the legless guy as a victim. "Of course he got beaten up, he's got no legs!" But the nigger with legs has a lot to lose- if he gets beaten up by the legless kid, he'll never live it down.

During a build up of insults at a bar, I threatened a much larger man (I am 5'11" at 165# -- he was significantly larger) at a bar one time. He said something like, "Nah, if I win, it is expected and I look like a bully. If you do somehow beat me, I'll be known as the guy that lost to GreyDragon." I laughed and we both cooled down. Yeah, neither one of us really wanted to fight.

If he was pissed enough to take off his legs to kick ass.... He was going to win.

The other guy should have had the sense to walk away.