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Unfortunately, do have higher IQs than whites...

Indian Americans place at about 112 on a bell-shaped IQ distribution, with white Americans at 100. 112 is the 79th percentile of the white distribution. For more context, consider that Ashkenazi Jews are a famously intelligent ethnic group, and their mean IQ is somewhere around 110.

Forbes (archive.is)

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Indian-Americans, Jews (particularly Ashkenazi Jews), and northeast Asians are consistently overrepresented in U.S. samples of gifted children

The American Conservative (archive.is)

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The IQ of Indian immigrants is also high, which suggests that the United States enjoys positive selection from that part of the world (p.57)

  • Full Scale Mean IQ Estimate for Indian-Americans: 111.9 (p.56)

IQ and Immigration Policy, Harvard dissertation presented to The Department of Public Policy (archive.is)

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the average IQ of Indian immigrants to the US is an Ashkenazi Jewish-like 112.

The Unz Review (archive.is)

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Indian SAT test takers an average score of 1029, which translates to an IQ of 110.84 compared to a white SAT of 934 which translates to an IQ of 103.96.

The Alternative Hypothesis (archive.is)

Arthur Hu's Index of Diversity (archive.is)

SAT I to IQ Estimator (archive.is)


IQ CORRELATED TO INCOME, EDUCATION, OCCUPATION

[IQ is an] explanation for differences in achievement or success... predictor of future success as in school, training and occupational selection

National Center for Biotechnology Information (archive.is)

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[IQ] strong statistical predictor of multiple future life outcomes - income, education level

Forbes (archive.is)


HIGHEST AVERAGE INCOME, 2X AVG

  • Median household income by ethnicity: Indian-Americans rank first at 107k followed by Jewish-Americans at 97k.

Wikipedia (archive.is)

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The median household income for Indian immigrants in 2015 was much higher than that of the overall foreign- and native-born populations. Households headed by Indian immigrants had a median income of $107,000,

Migration Policy (archive.is)

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But the most striking distinction may be their economic status: Indian-American households have the single highest income level of any group in the country — more than twice as high as the general US population.

Columbia Business School (archive.is)


MOST-EDUCATED DEMOGRAPHIC

[Indian-Americans] are by far the best educated group in the country — roughly three times more India-born residents have college degrees than the general population.

Columbia Business School (archive.is)

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Indian immigrants tend to have much higher educational attainment compared to both the foreign- and native-born populations. In 2013, 76 percent of Indian immigrants (ages 25 and over) had a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 28 percent of all immigrants over 25 and 30 percent of native-born adults.

Migration Policy (archive.is)

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70% of Indian Americans aged 25 and older had college degrees in 2010, by far the highest rate among the six Asian-American groups studied and 2.5 times the rate among the overall U.S. population.

Pew Research (archive.is) [1 (archive.is)]

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most educated diaspora in the country.

Forbes (archive.is)

Indians are often excluded from affirmative action. Asians are overrepresented at many colleges, despite many being rejected in favor of blacks and Hispanics. American politicians and courts have extended the “benefits” of reverse racism to South Asians, just as they have to whites.

American Renaissance (archive.is)


OVER-REPRESENTED IN MEDICINE

Indians, whether native or foreign born, had a much higher rate of physicians per 100,000 persons in the work force than any other ethnic group. Overall, their rate was an astounding 5,793 per 100,000 Indians in the work force (i.e., almost 6 percent of Indian workers in the United States are doctors). Only "other Asians," with 3,036 per 100,000 adults, were remotely close.

  • Second highest demographic of American doctors after non-Hispanic whites.

Center for Immigration Studies (archive.is)

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Despite constituting less than 1% of the U.S. population, Indian-Americans are... 8% of its physicians and surgeons.

Forbes (archive.is)

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in both the 1970s and 1980s, Patel topped this list as the most common last name among all physicians. Patel is now officially the last name most frequently preceded by “Dr.”

Doximity (archive.is)

AND OTHER HIGH IQ OCCUPATIONS

Despite constituting less than 1% of the U.S. population, Indian-Americans are 3% of the nation's engineers, 7% of its IT workers

Forbes (archive.is)

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[Indian-Americans] have dominated the medical, engineering and computer science industries for decades

Forbes (archive.is)

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You're talking about Indian-Americans. The group of people with the highest income in the US based on recent statistics. The cream of the crop that emigrated from India and largely had a lot of wealth to begin with. You're not talking about the general population of India compared to the general population of America. A better comparison between groups would be to compare Indian-Americans and European descent "whites" that share an income range. Or Indians in general to Americans in general (which might run into problems too because of population size differences).

I'm not saying there aren't intelligent Indians, just that you have to be mindful about what you are comparing.

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Agreed. I figured we were only discussing the ones here.

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They aren't the ones big tech companies are outsourcing software development to. They are hiring the poor ones that dont demand more than 20 usd/hr

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The Indians here are pre-selected for higher IQ. The Jewish IQ was pre-selected by testing at a jewish private school.

What would the average causation IQ be if testing at yale were accepted as the average causation IQ?

average Caucasian IQ

There are different Caucasian groups. E.g. those with northern European ancestry have a higher average IQ than western. It's probably more prudent to break down groups into smaller subgroups to really see what's going on.

Yale

Why would you trust Yale not to have their own biases that would affect those scores?

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Comparisons like this are quantitative and not qualitative.

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they are better scholastics than many whites but their architecture, health, society are all less preferential to me. i could make a small list.

but Indians arent bad people, they are going through a very long philisophical/cultural phase that if changed jews would be piissed.

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Only persons of European descent are the most well rounded. Not only good math and sciences, but the same person is also likely to be creative and an independent free thinker.

Where as I noticed most Asians are good are repeating what they see and learn, they have less room for creativity or independent thought.

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Now use msm articles to tell me how jews have the highest iq ever lmao

112 is too dumb to be a good developer.

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It’s the median, meaning roughly half above and half below. For example, the white median ranges between 100 and 103. Not all of them are programmers or even than intelligent. They just have a greater percentage of higher IQ individuals.

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The average IQ in India is 82, they are basically animals.

They are famous for being terrible developers.

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The is more to it than IQ, there is also EQ and a myriad of other substances and quotients that make for creativity and problem solving.