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I'm not sure I really want to find this funny. Things are getting stupid, programmers are third world shit heads with lack of design. They design software like they design their shit cities.

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DIFFERENT culture means DIFFERENT (BASIC assumptions, trends (PEDANTIC - DICTATED by book ("super" (evil) NERD elites)), STYLE (confusing, INEFFICIENT) ) programs. Also their COMPLETE ignorance OR concern for WHAT these programs' purpose IS, whether they know, find out, or discover anything, they are EASILY "disappeared" they DO NOT use ("AMericanized") use their OWN NAMES here in the states.

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Unfortunately, do have higher IQs than whites...

Indian Americans place at about 112 on a bell-shaped IQ distribution, with white Americans at 100. 112 is the 79th percentile of the white distribution. For more context, consider that Ashkenazi Jews are a famously intelligent ethnic group, and their mean IQ is somewhere around 110.

Forbes (archive.is)

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Indian-Americans, Jews (particularly Ashkenazi Jews), and northeast Asians are consistently overrepresented in U.S. samples of gifted children

The American Conservative (archive.is)

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The IQ of Indian immigrants is also high, which suggests that the United States enjoys positive selection from that part of the world (p.57)

  • Full Scale Mean IQ Estimate for Indian-Americans: 111.9 (p.56)

IQ and Immigration Policy, Harvard dissertation presented to The Department of Public Policy (archive.is)

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the average IQ of Indian immigrants to the US is an Ashkenazi Jewish-like 112.

The Unz Review (archive.is)

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Indian SAT test takers an average score of 1029, which translates to an IQ of 110.84 compared to a white SAT of 934 which translates to an IQ of 103.96.

The Alternative Hypothesis (archive.is)

Arthur Hu's Index of Diversity (archive.is)

SAT I to IQ Estimator (archive.is)


IQ CORRELATED TO INCOME, EDUCATION, OCCUPATION

[IQ is an] explanation for differences in achievement or success... predictor of future success as in school, training and occupational selection

National Center for Biotechnology Information (archive.is)

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[IQ] strong statistical predictor of multiple future life outcomes - income, education level

Forbes (archive.is)


HIGHEST AVERAGE INCOME, 2X AVG

  • Median household income by ethnicity: Indian-Americans rank first at 107k followed by Jewish-Americans at 97k.

Wikipedia (archive.is)

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The median household income for Indian immigrants in 2015 was much higher than that of the overall foreign- and native-born populations. Households headed by Indian immigrants had a median income of $107,000,

Migration Policy (archive.is)

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But the most striking distinction may be their economic status: Indian-American households have the single highest income level of any group in the country — more than twice as high as the general US population.

Columbia Business School (archive.is)


MOST-EDUCATED DEMOGRAPHIC

[Indian-Americans] are by far the best educated group in the country — roughly three times more India-born residents have college degrees than the general population.

Columbia Business School (archive.is)

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Indian immigrants tend to have much higher educational attainment compared to both the foreign- and native-born populations. In 2013, 76 percent of Indian immigrants (ages 25 and over) had a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 28 percent of all immigrants over 25 and 30 percent of native-born adults.

Migration Policy (archive.is)

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70% of Indian Americans aged 25 and older had college degrees in 2010, by far the highest rate among the six Asian-American groups studied and 2.5 times the rate among the overall U.S. population.

Pew Research (archive.is) [1 (archive.is)]

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most educated diaspora in the country.

Forbes (archive.is)

Indians are often excluded from affirmative action. Asians are overrepresented at many colleges, despite many being rejected in favor of blacks and Hispanics. American politicians and courts have extended the “benefits” of reverse racism to South Asians, just as they have to whites.

American Renaissance (archive.is)


OVER-REPRESENTED IN MEDICINE

Indians, whether native or foreign born, had a much higher rate of physicians per 100,000 persons in the work force than any other ethnic group. Overall, their rate was an astounding 5,793 per 100,000 Indians in the work force (i.e., almost 6 percent of Indian workers in the United States are doctors). Only "other Asians," with 3,036 per 100,000 adults, were remotely close.

  • Second highest demographic of American doctors after non-Hispanic whites.

Center for Immigration Studies (archive.is)

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Despite constituting less than 1% of the U.S. population, Indian-Americans are... 8% of its physicians and surgeons.

Forbes (archive.is)

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in both the 1970s and 1980s, Patel topped this list as the most common last name among all physicians. Patel is now officially the last name most frequently preceded by “Dr.”

Doximity (archive.is)

AND OTHER HIGH IQ OCCUPATIONS

Despite constituting less than 1% of the U.S. population, Indian-Americans are 3% of the nation's engineers, 7% of its IT workers

Forbes (archive.is)

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[Indian-Americans] have dominated the medical, engineering and computer science industries for decades

Forbes (archive.is)

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You're talking about Indian-Americans. The group of people with the highest income in the US based on recent statistics. The cream of the crop that emigrated from India and largely had a lot of wealth to begin with. You're not talking about the general population of India compared to the general population of America. A better comparison between groups would be to compare Indian-Americans and European descent "whites" that share an income range. Or Indians in general to Americans in general (which might run into problems too because of population size differences).

I'm not saying there aren't intelligent Indians, just that you have to be mindful about what you are comparing.

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Agreed. I figured we were only discussing the ones here.

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The Indians here are pre-selected for higher IQ. The Jewish IQ was pre-selected by testing at a jewish private school.

What would the average causation IQ be if testing at yale were accepted as the average causation IQ?

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Comparisons like this are quantitative and not qualitative.

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they are better scholastics than many whites but their architecture, health, society are all less preferential to me. i could make a small list.

but Indians arent bad people, they are going through a very long philisophical/cultural phase that if changed jews would be piissed.

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Only persons of European descent are the most well rounded. Not only good math and sciences, but the same person is also likely to be creative and an independent free thinker.

Where as I noticed most Asians are good are repeating what they see and learn, they have less room for creativity or independent thought.

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Now use msm articles to tell me how jews have the highest iq ever lmao

112 is too dumb to be a good developer.

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It’s the median, meaning roughly half above and half below. For example, the white median ranges between 100 and 103. Not all of them are programmers or even than intelligent. They just have a greater percentage of higher IQ individuals.

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The is more to it than IQ, there is also EQ and a myriad of other substances and quotients that make for creativity and problem solving.

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We actually are getting stupider, by the way. IQ is dropping worldwide. It's the natural result of feeding and caring for the incompetent, so that they can breed. Blacks in American inner cities are the prime example. They don't need to hold jobs, they don't need to even be able to read or write, but they are fed and housed so that they can keep pumping out the niglets once a year. One estimate I read said intelligence hit its peak around the time of Shakespeare. Welfare and modern medicine are dumbing us all down, by allowing the stupid to prosper, and breed, at the expense of the intelligent. Look around you -- who is having the babies? It isn't highly intelligent white people.

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Go watch the movie “Idiocracy” and try not to commit suicide. It’s a movie set 500 years in the future where everyone evolved to be stupid. The #1 show is “ow my balls” where people just get kicked in the balls.

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The reality is that the world we're living in NOW is Idiocracy compared to a century or two ago.

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*more stupid.

"Stupider" just makes you sound stupid saying it.

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Yep, I came here to say this but you beat me to it. "Stupider" isn't a word.

i need at least 15 GHz processor to do English

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Isn’t globalism great?

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Corporations want to hire idiot "engineers".

For a long time I thought it was because they're greedy and don't want to pay.

Now I think it's not about money but about control. You have dozens of idiots creating a shit product, where no one knows how the whole thing works. Solution to any issue is to just hire more idiots.

Not uncommon to have 50 idiots creating overly complex pile of shit, when literally 3-5 smart experienced guys would do it much better and quicker.

They don't care about money, they want full control.

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Lazy. Hardware is getting more powerful so it's not a requirement to be efficient.

Hardware isn't even powerful anymore.

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I've noticed that. Moore's law hit the wall, I believe. All they do now is throw more cores on the die. Oh and include hidden microprocessors only three letter agencies know is there.

I think they try to squeeze as much as money from silicon based microprocessors before moving to the next big revolutionary technology.

The next step in hardware is making it use less energy.

diversity is strength

Forced diversity is a tactic of elites to keep the society divided, otherwise do you really think immigration is going to be beneficial to developing countries? It brain-drains their countries.

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As an American programmer, this isn't about being smart or stupid... it's about being greedy.

Back in the day there were no parallel processes, no background tasks, and definitely no threaded cores. You had one program, it only ran when it was open, and that was it. That program got what is available, and nothing more. Things were simple.

Nowadays, there are background tasks, parallel programs, and layered windows all doing their own work behind each other... hell, your web pages are written in Angular, which is essentiall just a JavaScript program that runs through your browser, so if you have 10 tabs open to pages that run Angular, your have 10 + 1 programs (Angular plus the browser) running at the same time!

And this is where greed comes into play. With single-process machines, the only had a certain amount of memory to "play" with... any more and the machine would crash. But now, when you have gigabytes of memory, how much does your browser get? How much does your Micro$oft Office suite get? How much memory goes to your calculator program?

And, more importantly? What happens when every program wants it all? The resources are there, and those resources are available, but what happens when each program wants all of it?

This is what "paging" and "SWAP space" is. If any of you lived through Winb£ows X₱ or Vi$ta, then you may remember using a USB flash drive to "increase your paging memory" to "increase SWAP performance". Your OS will routinely take applications you're not actively using, or it thinks you're not actively using, and pull it's RAM contents out of RAM and write them to the SWAP space on your hard disk (which is SLOW), as a "page" of memory... or if you had a USB 2.0 flash memory device (which is faster than writing to a spinning hard disk) it could write your "pages" to that.

Now, once an app has been SWAP-ped to the HDD/USB, if you ever want to pull that app to the front again, your computer now has to take the app that was just in the front (the one you're no longer using), send its page to that SWAP space on the HDD/USB, pull the page for the app you want to use out of SWAP, and put it back into RAM. This isn't a trivial process, and it takes time...

Unless you have enough memory to run both (or all of your) apps at the same time... then there's no need for this SWAP-piness to take place. Everything can live in RAM, and you're blazing fast... unless developers hear the new standard is 64GB of RAM, and they start putting more "features" into their programs, which require more RAM, because they're greedy. Let's do this with an example...

Let's say you have a basic calculator and notepad program.
They both do basic things (e.g. - arithmetic and teletyping).
Each program may need ~8MB of RAM, so 16MB of RAM is PLENTY, right?
Well, what if you want to add transparency to your notepad app, so you can see through the background?
What if you want to add a "scientific" mode to your calculator?
What if each of these adds another 8MB of memory for each program, making them ~16MB each?
Then, if you want to use both, only one can exist on your 16MB stick of RAM at any given time.

If you're using the calculator, and want to switch to the notepad, a series of events needs to happen...
1. The page for the calculator needs to be copied out of RAM
2. The page for the calculator needs to be written to the SWAP
3. The page for the notepad needs to be copied out of SWAP
4. The page for the notepad needs to be written to the RAM

And, when you change see the number you want to type into your calculator, and you want to change back...
These read/write cycles are SLOW, and take up a LOT of time that your computer could actually be processing data...
But now, your computer is ALSO processing data as this is all happening...

So, it's not about being smart or stupid... on the contrary, your computer is doing a LOT of smart things under the hood... it's about consumers wanting more features, and developers "stealing" more RAM for themselves, and software changing faster than you can go out and buy new RAM.

And this is why your computer needs so many resources (multiple cores, more RAM, better graphics processing) to do simple tasks... because it's not doing simple tasks like rendering text as OP stated... it's rendering text, it's SWAP-ping memory, it's trying to "predict" what program you'll need next so it can queue that memory up so it's available faster, it's rendering that video you just hacked together, all while it's playing music and video for you to enjoy, and it's sending telemetry back to Micro$hit. There's a lot going on, and developers all got greedy and saw there was "so much room for activities," so they made their apps have ALL the activities, and it uses all of your RAM like its own personal playground instead of sharing it with the other kids.

And we just delved into RAM... what about the multiple cores on your processor, and which app takes priority in queue, and which apps get processed first/last? What about your graphics card... does it devote its cores to rendering your game, or rendering the video you just spliced together, or to your Bitcoin miner, or does it auto-magically split its cores to all of those tasks... and how does it decide what "auto-magically" means, and does that mean the main processor does the math to decide which process gets more/less GPU cores, and how does that "decision" queue up with all of the other things trying to get processed?

Consumers want more, so developers took more, and your software/firmware demands more, so consumers buy more, which makes consumers feel entitled and they demand more, so developers take more...

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Javascript was the worst idea ever.

Use Typescript.

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Show me a browser that supports native TypeScript. TS must be transpiled to JS so this is just an extra layer of retarded on top of the disaster that is native JS.

At least it's converted to proper codes.

How? I did a lot of development in the early days of ajax with it. It was a great tool

Explanation -> Money. It's cheaper to make shitty software.

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You're comparing the best stuff of the 90s with the bottom of the barrel today. It's not a fair comparison.

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So true. There are still websites that load quickly, for example (example.com).

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