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You're assuming that people have done what they've done because they were ignorant. Or because they were greedy.
You're projecting. People didn't do electric cars first because they didn't have lithium battery technology, strong permanent magnet motors, and the computers necessary to manage the charge state. Now that we do, they are going to replace gasoline in a large portion of the market whether you like it or not. Economics wins over feelings every time.
Batteries are fucking awful. Anyone who's ever used an electric drill for more than 5 minutes knows this. Batteries are unreliable, heavy, toxic, expensive, and inefficient.
The only people who "know" this are people who have no idea what they're talking about. They used shitty NiCd batteries 40 years ago and figured that's how things still are. My cordless drill has enough torque that it's stronger than any person's ohe-handed grip. You can only keep it from torquing out of your hands by using both, with one at the base of the handle. My cordless electric hedge clippers cut effortlessly through 1-inch branches and it runs enough for me to only need to charge it after 3 or 4 yard days. The cordless leaf blower is better than the corded blower, and lighter. The oldest battery car in the household fleet has over 140,000 miles on it with the original battery and it's still fine. The pickup is stronger than any typical 4 or 6-cylinder sedan out there.
There's no possible way to slice batteries today as sucking. They have a lower total cost of ownership, lower maintenance, lower operating cost, and lower lifetime pollution. If you buy crap, it will work like crap. That doesn't mean everything is crap.
There's a reason why guns are chemically powered, not electric.
Mainly because magnetic projectiles are not nearly as dense as lead, nor do they offer explosive expansion like lead.
they are going to replace gasoline in a large portion of the market whether you like it or not. Economics wins over feelings every time.
Not because EVs will be cheaper, the more people demanding EVs, there will be more increase in demand for lithium batteries. The batteries will always be expensive. Batteries will have to be mined until nearly all cars are electric.
Oil is an artificially controlled market, oil should be as cheap as water. It is far easier to drill for oil than it is to mine battery materials.
We will be shoved into EVs as every EV will be self driving, they want to kill gas cars as many are not self driving. Now if you are against the state or didn't have your vax, no self driving mobility for you Goyim. It comes down to control.
railgun
You are going to need capacitors to fire a rail gun, only a capacitor is capable of discharging quick enough and large enough amperage, your rail gun system is going to be large. Whereas a bullet is tiny, all that energy in 7.62x51mm.
The power source in a normal gun is in the bullet, the power source in the rail gun is external and very large.
Not because EVs will be cheaper,
EVs are cheaper NOW, and they're only going to get cheaper. People who drive less than 250 miles a day and understand economics and ROI are driving them. People who haven't figured it out yet aren't.
You can buy a Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt, both with ~250 miles range for about $28,000 - $30,000. You get a $7,500 federal tax rebate. Some states also have rebates. In California it's $2,000. My electric utility also offers a $1,000 rebate. That makes the net price $17,500 - $19,500. You get about 4 miles per kWh, so 100,000 miles of driving costs you $3,750 at California electricity prices. Electric cars do not need oil changes, tune ups, air filters, or other engine maintenance, so that's out of the equation too. Everything else they need (tires, windshield wipers, etc.) is the same as gas cars so they don't factor into a cost difference.
A gas car of similar quality and features costs about $25,000. If it averages 30 mpg you will spend about $10,750 on gas per 100,000 miles at California gas prices (we're keeping the analysis constant - California electricity and gas prices). You will also need to get maybe 10 regular maintenance services at somewhere around $100 (being generous here). Your total cost to drive 100,000 miles is $25,000 + $10,750 + $1,000 = $36,750, or 36.75 cents per mile. The electric car's total cost to drive 100,000 miles is $17,500 + $3,750 = $21,250, or 21.25 cents per mile.
Tell me how $36,750 is cheaper than $21,750. Even if you take away all the rebates the electric car's total cost after 100,000 miles is $31,750 - still cheaper than the gas car by $5,000.
They are not cheap, a leaf or bolt is a POS entry level car which a gas version would be only 20k for the same car fully loaded. You also use california prices, some people are located in areas without high gas tax and have winter to deal with.
Not all resources are equal.
Your wonderful hedge clippers won't be working in ten years. My family has diesel engines from 1969 that are still being used. Internal combustion is less complicated, easier to maintain, less fragile, and more efficient.
I actually know what I'm talking about. It is called experience. While you are a very good example of an obedient NPC.
Economics, huh? I guess that's why government is mandating this shit, right? Because it is the inevitable wave of the future?
The fact is that nothing is better at storing energy than petroleum. Weight, speed of refueling, complexity, fragility... Nothing is better.
As someone actually involved in a business based on vehicles, I know from experience that you are simply fucking wrong. Electric vehicles are inferior. Harder to maintain. Harder to repair. More fragile. Less distance. Less reliable. They require a larger more complex, expensive, and fragile infrastructure. I KNOW this is the indisputable truth because we've built refueling stations for our vehicles. We can build a refueling station that is off the grid and it goes years without needing maintenance or repairs. No electric recharging station could ever mimic this fact. NEVER.
I can refuel a semi in 15 minutes and haul several tons of material at 75 mph several hundred miles. That's not possible with electric. It is simply fucking impossible. Chemical energy and electrical energy are not interchangeable nor equivalent.
Not all energy sources are equivalent nor interchangeable. Get this through your skull.
Fuck, I hate you millennials. You guys simply cannot believe that anyone actually knows more than you, because you read Wikipedia and watch TED.
Also your comment about guns is beyond stupid. Fuck me.
You know, you really shouldn't be trying to discuss anything about anything. Other equally ignorant people might see your comments and get infected.
I've spent more time working on and building the stuff we're talking about than you've probably spent breathing air. Your couple of hours reading about this shit does not give you the right to have a fucking opinion.
Come back to me when you have spent 30 years working with this stuff. Come back to me after driving truck. Come back after building electric RC cars for 15 years. Come back after you have paid millions in invoices for vehicle repair and maintenance. Come back after using hand tools for 40 years.
The truth is that electronics are for toys, not serious work.
I whole heartedly agree with you, as a man that has worked in the sticks for decades having electric motors power everything is the dumbest shit I might have ever heard.
You can't do real work for extended periods of time with electric motors. But you can work for weeks with a tank of diesel on a truck. Completely isolated from civilization. No matter how fanciful they think their ideas are, electric motors will never make the cut. Maybe in 100 years when/if battery technology catches up. But then again, where are we going to get the power to charge these batteries, It really is a circular leftist/millennial city boy argument.
Children acting like adults that have never actually worked a day in their lives.
You figured out that electricity doesn't work out so well somewhere where there isn't electricity. Congratulations!
I wonder if the railroads know how useless their Diesel locomotives really are? After all, those Diesel motors are only turning generators for electric traction motors. Too bad they aren't as wise as you two.
Internal combustion is less complicated
Ah ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Now THAT is retarded.
I can refuel a semi in 15 minutes and haul several tons of material at 75 mph several hundred miles.
Is that how you commute to work, in a semi hauling several tons of material? Because if it is you jumped into a conversation that is irrelevant to you (surprise). Right tool for the job and all that. Hard to understand for simpler minded people.
Fuck, I hate you millennials. You guys simply cannot believe that anyone actually knows more than you, because you read Wikipedia and watch TED.
I don't think you can be a millenial if you're over a half century old. You project way too much. It's really inhibiting your ability to learn. You've let yourself become outdated. Congratulations on becoming the stereotype about old people unable to learn or understand new technology. I don't believe you're actually that old, though. Your irrational hormone-driven anger betrays your lies. You're very likely in your twenties, as that's when idiots are at the peak of thinking they know everything and full of anger for no reason ... like a teenage girl.
Also your comment about guns is beyond stupid. Fuck me.
If you don't know that lead is dense and expands on impact, and that's why we use it for firearms, you will need to give some serious reconsideration to who is stupid in this conversation.
Yes, yes I'm 20 years old. You can tell by the way all my points are unique, and based on personal experience, and not from Wikipedia.
You honestly made me laugh. We are talking about energy sources (well I am anyway) and you think my mockery of your gun comment is about the density of lead?
Holy fuck. Lead's density doesn't hold a candle to you.
If you are in your 50's then you must be one of those boomers who was a prototype for the Millennials.
My arguments for how batteries don't work for trucks is just as applicable to cars.
Battery means literally "a group of things connected together."
Batteries are a battery of energy cells. Each cell is a limited use toxic waste container. Each cell, and each connection between cells must be working for the battery to work. Each connection reduces efficiency. Any problem with a cell causes problems for the battery.
Batteries are not really repairable. They are heavy. They are amazingly fragile.
The whole system is inefficient and fragile.
Let's compare this to combustion. A fuel tank doesn't have a shelf life like the battery. Fuel isn't fragile to bumps. Fuel is easily transportable. Fuel is relatively stable and non toxic compared to the stuff in energy cells. (Energy cells are filled with very caustic and toxic chemicals. That are also rare and expensive.) Batteries bleed their charge. Batteries decay physically.
Electric motors require lubrication. They attract dust. Cleaning and maintaining an electric motor is not like changing oil. You need caustic solvents. Yes, there are sealed motors, but you still need to maintain and clean them. They aren't maintenance free. Anyone who has ever rebuilt and cleaned up a box fan knows it's worse than changing oil in a car.
Then there's the speed controller. Fragile, not repairable, and inefficient. You know what a heat sink is, right? A heat sink is the huge metal fin set that's there to dissipate heat from the resistors. All this stuff fragile, inefficient and not repairable.
The summary is this: electric cars are more complicated than internal combustion. Electric cars are more fragile. They have all the basic parts of real cars, plus a bunch of additional parts.
Additionally, electric cars require greater infrastructure to operate. Thus more fragility.
The core of the vehicle, the bare bones version of an electric car is significantly more complicated than a bare bones real car. That you would argue this indicates either a level of dishonesty or ignorance that cannot be reasoned with.
Tell that to northern winters.
Cold weather does reduce the range of electric cars (mostly because of people using the heater), but it also extends the overall life of the battery. At 0°F the Nissan Leaf S+ still gets about 120 miles per charge.
but it also extends the overall life of the battery. At 0°F the Nissan Leaf S+ still gets about 120 miles per charge.
I'd have to see it to believe it. Way the world is these days.
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