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LOL. Consider the chain of energy
- Fossil fuels require energy to pull out of the ground. Energy to refine.
- Electric generators convert fossil fuels to mechanical energy.
- Mechanical energy is converted to electricity.
- Electricity is converted to chemical energy (battery).
- Chemical energy is converted to electricity.
- Electricity is converted to mechanical energy.
True. Electric cars are powered mainly by burning coal, except less efficiently than if it was burned directly. On top of that mining the metals and manufacturing the batteries requires a lot of fossil fuel energy and creates a lot of pollution.
Which makes me wonder if a lot of our coal mines, or the rights to them, were acquired when the Obama administration shutdown our coal industry. And if so, acquired by who?
jews. Who will do you a huge favor and give you 10 cents on the dollar for it.
making steel and aluminum can only be done with coal. And you need a shitload of it for a car
An irrelevant variable since the amount of steel and aluminum doesn't differ much between an electric car and a gas car.
This is true I've see a lot of white girls drive electric cars.
I'm not very scientific but I think that could be called a clusterfuck. Or maybe a "chain of fuck", if you will.
If you throw some incompetence into the mix it becomes a monkey fuck.
Oof! Great point.
And yet they're still more energy efficient. It comes from the efficiencies of scale. It's far more efficient for one giant power plant to burn fossil fuels to charge 1 million cars than it is to have 1 million little miniature power plants driving around. Don't believe it? Why don't we have a little power plant next to each home rather than large ones and all the distribution problems that come with it?
It's about stamping out freedom, when/if the electric grid goes down, every one of those electric devices is rendered a giant paper weight. Gasoline/diesel keeps engines running regardless of infrastructure. If you can find some petrol you can start your engine. Much different than trusting/hoping the electrical grid stays up and constant in the coming years.
It's about stamping out freedom, when/if the electric grid goes down, every one of those electric devices is rendered a giant paper weight. Gasoline/diesel keeps engines running regardless of infrastructure.
Oh yeah? How do you plan to get that gasoline/Diesel out of the underground tank and into your car without electricity? With a generator? I can use solar OR a generator to charge my car and STILL get as good a mileage as a Civic. One gallon of gas will run my Honda Eu2000i long enough to give me about 32-35 miles of range on one gallon.
Get a hybrid plug in problem solved Toyota makes it
Anyone can make electricity at home with some wire and magnets, and effort.
Who's going to drill for oil at home, then refine it?
This
It's not about efficiency of scale. It has to do with electrical power itself. Electricity is generated whether it is consumed or not. It's only more efficient to generate power and distribute it to many consumers simultaneously so there is a steady load. When I run my generator, it burns a minimum amount of fuel constantly even when there is no electrical load. The bigger the generator, the more fuel it uses even under a no load situation. A typical 20K generator burns about 2 gallons of propane under 0 to 1/2 load. At full load, it will burn up to 4 gallons per hour. I will typically start my generator and let it run for 30 minutes and shut it down. This is long enough to charge my well, refrigerator, and heating system for several hours.
Unfortunately, the "green" industry is good at half truths. They forget about the true cost of energy. Also solar panels do not work when the power grid goes down. People who own them were not told that little secret.
I agree that electric motors are more efficient than petrol motors. But considering how the electricity is generated needs to considered. If your power is hydroelectric, then great! That's as good as it gets.
I can't understand how electric vehicles are more cost efficient than gas, based on the cost per mile. When you look at the cost of heating, electric is way more expensive than oil or natural gas. Wouldn't generating heat with electricity be about as efficient you can get?
Also solar panels do not work when the power grid goes down.
Why
Also solar panels do not work when the power grid goes down. People who own them were not told that little secret.
Sure they do if your inverters support it. It's just that most people's systems aren't set up that way.
I agree that electric motors are more efficient than petrol motors. But considering how the electricity is generated needs to considered. If your power is hydroelectric, then great! That's as good as it gets.
It's even better cost-wise when you have solar. You're literally charging for free since that power is a sunk cost.
Yeah no.
That's the same kind of idiot leftist thinking that argues that we should turn pastures into fields.
Economies of scale? A trite misapplied theoretical economics concept doesn't just win the argument.
Not all resources are equal. Not all infrastructure is equal. It's not all interchangeable. Energy storage isn't equal.
It's about energy gained versus energy expended.
There's a reason why people don't use coal at home. There's a reason why people DO use gasoline at home. There's a reason why phones aren't powered by capacitors. There's a reason why LEDs were used on VCRs and not lamps. There's a reason why radio controlled cars are electric and why real cars aren't.
You're assuming that people have done what they've done because they were ignorant. Or because they were greedy. Leftists always assume they know better even though never know anything about what they bitching about.
Batteries are fucking awful. Anyone who's ever used an electric drill for more than 5 minutes knows this. Batteries are unreliable, heavy, toxic, expensive, and inefficient.
There's a reason why guns are chemically powered, not electric. Rail guns are not ever going to replace firearms.
Not all sources of energy are interchangeable.
Rail guns are not ever going to replace firearms.
Not any time soon, eventually maybe.
You're assuming that people have done what they've done because they were ignorant. Or because they were greedy.
You're projecting. People didn't do electric cars first because they didn't have lithium battery technology, strong permanent magnet motors, and the computers necessary to manage the charge state. Now that we do, they are going to replace gasoline in a large portion of the market whether you like it or not. Economics wins over feelings every time.
Batteries are fucking awful. Anyone who's ever used an electric drill for more than 5 minutes knows this. Batteries are unreliable, heavy, toxic, expensive, and inefficient.
The only people who "know" this are people who have no idea what they're talking about. They used shitty NiCd batteries 40 years ago and figured that's how things still are. My cordless drill has enough torque that it's stronger than any person's ohe-handed grip. You can only keep it from torquing out of your hands by using both, with one at the base of the handle. My cordless electric hedge clippers cut effortlessly through 1-inch branches and it runs enough for me to only need to charge it after 3 or 4 yard days. The cordless leaf blower is better than the corded blower, and lighter. The oldest battery car in the household fleet has over 140,000 miles on it with the original battery and it's still fine. The pickup is stronger than any typical 4 or 6-cylinder sedan out there.
There's no possible way to slice batteries today as sucking. They have a lower total cost of ownership, lower maintenance, lower operating cost, and lower lifetime pollution. If you buy crap, it will work like crap. That doesn't mean everything is crap.
There's a reason why guns are chemically powered, not electric.
Mainly because magnetic projectiles are not nearly as dense as lead, nor do they offer explosive expansion like lead.
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