Reducing sparta to a mere oppressive state just because you couldn't leave before finishing your military training as a citizen is a dumb binary conception of a topic you obviously know little about It was a small closed society, including within it pretty much all what men and women needed to live a good life, happy, a sort of permanent camp constrained by a military demand resulting from the continual presence of external dangers The oppressive shit, came from the outside, the world wasn't exactly the comfortable place it has become today We're talking about a societal project that lasted for about 1000 years ... French revolution started in 1789, james mayer de rothschild wasn't even born, the rothschild banking dynasty of france was founded in 1812, some 22 years later.... Rotschilds didn't start the french revolution, france was in deep shit at every fucking level, starting with exhausted cereal reserves combined to mass crop failures leading to fucking famines, for a fucking start