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I was chatting with a friend of mine in the shipping business. Not just cruise lines but some of the biggies in shipping (Maersk, Hapag Lloyd, Evergreen) are also taking advantage of the Covid-related downturn to scrap their older hulls while taking the loss against profits and also claiming what they can from insurance.

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Sounds like we are in for some economically hard times beyond what people today can comprehend.

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That might very well be correct.

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Someone suggested buying these on the cheap to create floating white ethno states.

The problem with that idea is that ships need a LOT of maintenance. Like 10-20% of the new price every year 'a lot'. (With this in mind it's not that surprising that they are scrapping ships the moment they don't produce revenue)

I was into the seasteading idea before developing our current strategies. Basically salt water acts a lot like acid and not even stainless steel will work perfectly. You also have waves constantly accumulating stress into your structures.

For seasteading maybe a purposefully built spar structure or platform resting on the ocean floor with carefully chosen materials could work, but ships won't.

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GOOD ships might kind of work, but cruise ships are only barely even ships.

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What is a "good ship"? Like I said even glass fiber or stainless steel won't work and those cost a lot more than normal ships.

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Erodgan's attempt to revive the ottoman war machine isn't likely going to have much endurance passed him, I guess. Sure, he's got a large influx of steel, but Turkey has never really managed to build up the educated population necessary to sustain it.