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Earlier today @AOU made a post that is well intentioned and useful knowledge we should all have (thank you for that, AOU). Here is the post: https://poal.co/s/Truthhurts/625075

I appreciate open discussion and discourse here, but I do ask one thing before we get started: read my words and give them real thought before posting your replies. It's important to do this and I will explain why below.

As I said, it is good information and we all can benefit from AOU's sharing of this knowledge, but it got me thinking again about the topic of survivalism, self-sufficiency and prepping. These topics have always made me uneasy because they tend to revolve around a defeatist attitude rather than a notion that we can overcome our enemies instead of being forced to retreat. Let me explain.

The jews have exploited many of the White man's faculties and character traits to subvert us and allow them to dominate our world. They coopted our empathy to import murderous "migrant" invaders. They subverted our women to promote miscegenation and sexual deviance. They even corrupted our kids into trans-humanism and social isolation. Given that the kikes have successfully exploited our good traits into furthering their agenda, what if they are using our survival instincts and perseverance to force us into retreat, isolation, subsistence living and regressive existence? What if the self-sufficiency and survival traits of Whites were coopted to make us voluntarily choose to separate ourselves from the jew controlled world and not fight them to gain the top position again? Is this a psyop that we didn't notice?

The information in the graphic post AOU provided is great at face value. It gives us an idea of how we can live in a small area with limited resources where we produce our own food to keep ourselves and families alive. It shows that it is possible, but we knew that from our own history already but have forgotten those ways because the industrialized world we live in today does not require individuals to live this way any longer. BUT...what I noticed (or actually reinforced noticing from other similar posts) is that the subtext of the image shows a different, corrupted story. It cleverly depicts a scene without family, without community, without advancement, without innovation, without social interaction and without a future any different than a given day. It is stagnation not survival. It is a dead end of subsistence without growth. It is a distraction from the enemy, the jews, and their plans to enslave us. Hell, it even shows that we are supposed to live without animal protein and adopt a purely vegetarian diet. I'm not on board with that or any of these subtext subversions.

Now with that said, the concepts of prepping, survivalism, returning to simple living and bugging-out all leave me a disturbing feeling I cannot shake. I don't want to regress into an agrarian world of individuals and small groups eking out an existence because I want to continue to do what White men have done throughout the ages: conquer and prosper. I want to continue to our future path of multi-world expansion and colonization. I want to see the Whites make bigger and better things by innovating, inventing and discovering all we can. We can't do that in isolation and we can't do that if we are farming 18-hours a day just to ward off starvation. If we choose to follow this self-sufficiency and isolation plan that the jews seem to promote (notice how they don't really scrub this stuff out of the public body of knowledge), then the jews will continue to dominate us, continue to progress forward and no one will be properly equipped to stop them. They win and we lose. I don't want us to become Bear Gryls. I'm thinking we should do more and be like Marvin Heemeyer instead.

So imagine what would happen if we stopped planning for defeat and how to bug out to grow some meager crops to feed our families and instead use our White talents, skills, knowledge and abilities to put more effort into being prepared to fight rather than run away. Marvin fought back. He made a machine that allowed him to be invincible for a small while. He showed us and (((them))) that White men are a force to be reckoned with. Imagine if we built in every community a battalion of kill-dozers piloted by White men with no intention of getting out of those dozers until the job is done or they are KIA. I think THAT would be an even bigger threat to all our enemies. It's more possible than it seems and the outcome would be much better than choosing self-isolation and defeat while the jews continue on with their plans unabated.

I'm not proposing that we go full Marvin here. I'm just asking you to think of the possibilities that doing so could bring to the table instead of taking huge steps backwards and living simple lives that betray our heritage. It's just one of many things we could do to turn the tables here. I don't want us living as individuals who stop dead in its tracks the march of White culture. I don't want to see us voluntarily choose to be vegetarians because the jews coopted our heritage of agriculture and used it to turn us into plant-eaters because we're too busy being proud of our agricultural skills to notice that we were cunningly deceived into doing so. I don't want this psyop to turn us into the side that gave up and chose defeat because we were persuaded by romantic notions of living off the land instead of reaching for the stars as we have been. If this is a jew psyop, and I think it is, then we are being fooled once again by our own fault because we let them change our path by romanticizing our past that we fought ourselves out of to boldly go forward. Our history is both being used against us and simultaneously erased. It's something we don't have to accept. Which way do we go from here?

Now I ask again to think carefully about this content and your replies. The reason I said it is important to do so is based on the noticing I have done on these topics before. When I have posted or commented on them in various discussions, the responses are often quick and reek of psyop-style programming. If you don't agree with me that's perfectly fine. I don't expect an echo chamber reinforcing my thoughts on the matter. I do however expect discussion with reason and thought applied. Quick replies telling me how I'm retarded, a kike, a glownigger or what have you all reinforce the idea that it is indeed a psyop and you've been programmed very well to not consider that this was a (((trick))) used to have us choose defeat voluntarily. Think about my words here. Ask questions. Get more information. Do more and think more and then give me a counterargument or reasons/details for me being incorrect in my thinking. But please think about it. If this is a psyop, then we really need to up our game to prevent getting manipulated like this again.

Discussion is open now.

Earlier today @AOU made a post that is well intentioned and useful knowledge we should all have (thank you for that, AOU). Here is the post: https://poal.co/s/Truthhurts/625075 I appreciate open discussion and discourse here, but I do ask one thing before we get started: read my words and give them real thought before posting your replies. It's important to do this and I will explain why below. As I said, it is good information and we all can benefit from AOU's sharing of this knowledge, but it got me thinking again about the topic of survivalism, self-sufficiency and prepping. These topics have always made me uneasy because they tend to revolve around a defeatist attitude rather than a notion that we can overcome our enemies instead of being forced to retreat. Let me explain. The jews have exploited many of the White man's faculties and character traits to subvert us and allow them to dominate our world. They coopted our empathy to import murderous "migrant" invaders. They subverted our women to promote miscegenation and sexual deviance. They even corrupted our kids into trans-humanism and social isolation. Given that the kikes have successfully exploited our good traits into furthering their agenda, what if they are using our survival instincts and perseverance to force us into retreat, isolation, subsistence living and regressive existence? What if the self-sufficiency and survival traits of Whites were coopted to make us voluntarily choose to separate ourselves from the jew controlled world and not fight them to gain the top position again? Is this a psyop that we didn't notice? The information in the graphic post AOU provided is great at face value. It gives us an idea of how we can live in a small area with limited resources where we produce our own food to keep ourselves and families alive. It shows that it is possible, but we knew that from our own history already but have forgotten those ways because the industrialized world we live in today does not require individuals to live this way any longer. BUT...what I noticed (or actually reinforced noticing from other similar posts) is that the subtext of the image shows a different, corrupted story. It cleverly depicts a scene without family, without community, without advancement, without innovation, without social interaction and without a future any different than a given day. It is stagnation not survival. It is a dead end of subsistence without growth. It is a distraction from the enemy, the jews, and their plans to enslave us. Hell, it even shows that we are supposed to live without animal protein and adopt a purely vegetarian diet. I'm not on board with that or any of these subtext subversions. Now with that said, the concepts of prepping, survivalism, returning to simple living and bugging-out all leave me a disturbing feeling I cannot shake. I don't want to regress into an agrarian world of individuals and small groups eking out an existence because I want to continue to do what White men have done throughout the ages: conquer and prosper. I want to continue to our future path of multi-world expansion and colonization. I want to see the Whites make bigger and better things by innovating, inventing and discovering all we can. We can't do that in isolation and we can't do that if we are farming 18-hours a day just to ward off starvation. If we choose to follow this self-sufficiency and isolation plan that the jews seem to promote (notice how they don't really scrub this stuff out of the public body of knowledge), then the jews will continue to dominate us, continue to progress forward and no one will be properly equipped to stop them. They win and we lose. I don't want us to become Bear Gryls. I'm thinking we should do more and be like Marvin Heemeyer instead. So imagine what would happen if we stopped planning for defeat and how to bug out to grow some meager crops to feed our families and instead use our White talents, skills, knowledge and abilities to put more effort into being prepared to fight rather than run away. Marvin fought back. He made a machine that allowed him to be invincible for a small while. He showed us and (((them))) that White men are a force to be reckoned with. Imagine if we built in every community a battalion of kill-dozers piloted by White men with no intention of getting out of those dozers until the job is done or they are KIA. I think THAT would be an even bigger threat to all our enemies. It's more possible than it seems and the outcome would be much better than choosing self-isolation and defeat while the jews continue on with their plans unabated. I'm not proposing that we go full Marvin here. I'm just asking you to think of the possibilities that doing so could bring to the table instead of taking huge steps backwards and living simple lives that betray our heritage. It's just one of many things we could do to turn the tables here. I don't want us living as individuals who stop dead in its tracks the march of White culture. I don't want to see us voluntarily choose to be vegetarians because the jews coopted our heritage of agriculture and used it to turn us into plant-eaters because we're too busy being proud of our agricultural skills to notice that we were cunningly deceived into doing so. I don't want this psyop to turn us into the side that gave up and chose defeat because we were persuaded by romantic notions of living off the land instead of reaching for the stars as we have been. If this is a jew psyop, and I think it is, then we are being fooled once again by our own fault because we let them change our path by romanticizing our past that we fought ourselves out of to boldly go forward. Our history is both being used against us and simultaneously erased. It's something we don't have to accept. Which way do we go from here? Now I ask again to think carefully about this content and your replies. The reason I said it is important to do so is based on the noticing I have done on these topics before. When I have posted or commented on them in various discussions, the responses are often quick and reek of psyop-style programming. If you don't agree with me that's perfectly fine. I don't expect an echo chamber reinforcing my thoughts on the matter. I do however expect discussion with reason and thought applied. Quick replies telling me how I'm retarded, a kike, a glownigger or what have you all reinforce the idea that it is indeed a psyop and you've been programmed very well to not consider that this was a (((trick))) used to have us choose defeat voluntarily. Think about my words here. Ask questions. Get more information. Do more and think more and then give me a counterargument or reasons/details for me being incorrect in my thinking. But please think about it. If this is a psyop, then we really need to up our game to prevent getting manipulated like this again. Discussion is open now.

(post is archived)

[–] • 10 pts

Thank you for making this post, I've been saying the same thing for long time.

There is no point in going off-grid and becoming self sufficient if you are doing it only to get away from (((the system))), they will still come after you and you will only be making it easier for them.

As someone said previously:

THEY WANT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DEAD AND YOUR CHILDREN RAPED, AND THEY THINK IT'S FUNNY.

These people will NEVER leave us alone.

[–] • 7 pts

There is no point in going off-grid and becoming self sufficient if you are doing it only to get away from (((the system))), they will still come after you and you will only be making it easier for them.

These people will NEVER leave us alone.

Precisely. All we would end up doing by following this prescribed notion of voluntary isolation is making it easier for them to take us out one by one. We've been coopted in so many ways that we don't even realize it. Our love of guns, for example, is one of them. The gun is arguably one of the White man's greatest achievements. It changed the world permanently and put us on top. The jews know this and have made us fiercely attached to guns as our great equalizing achievement. That's not a bad thing, but when the jews amplified their corrupt message, it has caused White men to think that guns are our ONLY weapon we can use to defeat our enemies.

We are much more capable than guns and we collectively can use our strong intellect and physical abilities to produce greater means for eradicating our enemies. We don't see that because they hyper-focused us on guns which means we won't even consider any other means. I guarantee you the jews are considering other means (cohen-19 and the like?). The kikes won't stop until we are dead and our children in their clutches to rape and murder. We think only what they want us to now and we are betraying our history of domination and conquest by allowing them to do that to us. They'll never leave us alone so we need to use our vast capabilities to out-smart them and take the world back. We'll leave them alone when they are all gone.

[–] • 1 pt

I agree, our plan needs to be smart and well organized. We need to be open about what we want and, no more hiding and allowing ourselves to be pushed around.

They want violence? Let them fire the first shots then if they are so brave.

[–] • 2 pts

I'd come to this conclusion at one point myself, so now my goal is not to go homestead or whatever, but to gather enough financial resources to both maintain a homestead as well as get into political funding and other such things (e.g., funding White nationalist candidates, PACs etc.).

[–] • 1 pt

Good plan, but considered that there won't be "White nationalist candidate", (((they))) won't allow you to vote for the to get kicked out of White landa, all such candidates will be controlled opposition.

White people need to organize and say "we are not assets of your corporate government and we no longer recognize you authority over our land" and take charge.

[–] • 1 pt

all such candidates will be controlled opposition.

I'm talking about picking them myself lmao

[–] • 5 pts

So. None of you noticed that there is a chicken coop. Guess you were not really paying attention. Yeah, its not a bunch of cows or pigs or sheep or goats but its what you can get by with in a very small space.

It is also not implied that you would not have family helping with all of it or that you would not have neighbors or community. Rather, if you had a good community then you could trade/barter for what you need or what they need.

[–] • 2 pts

So. None of you noticed that there is a chicken coop. Guess you were not really paying attention. Yeah, its not a bunch of cows or pigs or sheep or goats but its what you can get by with in a very small space.

But why would we have to live in a very small space? Doesn't that seem odd given the jew agenda of isolation and less resources? Sure you could argue that it would need to be small if everyone does it, but it would be much more sensible to then come together as a community and share the resources and labor for the benefit of all and the growth and expansion of that community. It should not be accepted that we must live small to survive. That goes against the White culture and heritage.

It is also not implied that you would not have family helping with all of it or that you would not have neighbors or community. Rather, if you had a good community then you could trade/barter for what you need or what they need.

Again, the community is more important and successful but the depiction was only showing a space with no count of occupants. It can only sustain a small group so it can't include community in it. The house is just too small to shelter more than 4 people in a healthy manner. The trade and barter system is also part of the defeatist notion of survivalism. Why do we need to regress to trade and barter instead of making our own economic system that does not rely on barter? We could keep capitalism minus the jewry and usury like it used to be. We need to keep going forward and not regress back into what anyone alive today has never been. Neither you or I were subsistence farmers so why should we have to voluntarily choose to be that instead of conquering our enemies?

[–] • 2 pts

Not going to argue those points, just trying to point out what even people in the original thread by AOU were missing.

People tend to group together. Stupid people tend to create massive cities and metros to group together in with each other. They then make fun of the people that grow the food calling them stupid and saying they dont need them because "food comes from the store".

If you only have a small space you should do what you can with it. If you have a larger space. Learn how to preserve things and find people to work/trade with.

[–] • 3 pts

Cities will become real walking dead scenarios within days. Most of them couldn't grow a flower. They'll eat themselves and the rest will run for the hills. Hordes of starving people roving for food. Surviving such a scenerio would be unimaginable irl.

[–] • 3 pts

A lot to consider. Thank you for bringing it up.

[–] • 1 pt

Why is it a binary decision? It isn't the plan, it's the insurance.

[–] • 1 pt

wife and i been prepping for the better part of 20 years. i still dont consider us 'ready'.

[–] • 1 pt

I've always prepped. As in, I prefer to be prepared, rather than caught with my pants down. The electric has the potential to be out for days? I like to think I'm prepared for that. Ect... My living situation is fairly ideal as far as what this post pertains to, as well. Food? I grow what I want. Animals? There's plenty. Plenty of wildlife comes through here regularly. I don't live where I do because I wanted to get away from anything. I work the land as hard as I want. Barter is still a good system for surplus anything I've got or someone is willing to trade. Trade, as in, food, ammo, parts, favors and even help with a small or large job. I'm not the most well off person. And I consider myself lucky- to the extreme. I'm still "part of a larger system." And I don't intentionally wish to exit it. I'd much rather see that "system" repaired. Corruption has always been with us, I'd like to see corruption minimized, to the point where it isn't effective on the scale it is now. Take these words with you: I will never stop working to make a better tommorow for me and mine. You do the same.

[–] • 1 pt

I think just having the skills to grow food and have some kind of survival plan is important.
However there are so many people just saying "Grow a garden" it'll save you. Pathetic thinking, your garden would dissappear quickly once producing by hordes of starving, unskilled vermin. Unless you have armed guards day and night.

[–] • 3 pts

However there are so many people just saying "Grow a garden" it'll save you. Pathetic thinking, your garden would dissappear quickly once producing by hordes of starving, unskilled vermin. Unless you have armed guards day and night.

(((they))) know this. That's why (((they))) promote survival as individuals rather than communities. (((they))) want us fighting each other instead of (((them))). I don't want to fight my brothers. I want to join my brothers in fighting our enemies. I want to win and keep White culture moving into a great and prosperous future. The jews don't want that so they created this (((psyop))) to steer us into isolation and individualism instead of family, community, religion and race solidarity. (((they))) will only win if we let them.

[–] • 2 pts

I'm in 100% agreement Morbo. We don't organize like our enemies and this has to change. I'm trying with friends and people who are awake just enough to ask questions. It's difficult to know just how far you can push but I'm getting better at it. My daughter is amazing at organizing and finding like minded people. A lot of people are joining home schooling groups. My grandchildren are going to a ranch, farming, survivalist type of kindergarten twice a week. I have hope. I had a great discussion with golf partners yesterday. I through in enough jew comments to make them think.

[–] • 2 pts

Thank you for doing what you are doing. This is the spirit we need to keep alive so that we can get back to where we belong. I too have hope that we can overcome because many people are starting to wake up from the brainwashing and see what is the real cause of our woes. Our children will be the ones to help break us out of this cycle of deceit and it's good your grandchildren are being taught things that are verboten in today's kiked up world. It's our way forward. Godspeed.

[–] • 1 pt

It's not a psyop, it's a lack of masculinity / collective responsibility. Some of us have been calling this out for years.

i.e. Tons of people are fine with everything going to shit so long as they get fucked last. See every q-tard "keep your powder dry and look out for you own" post ever for an example. Looking out for your own is your own people. We either get our identity back together or we die. Anyone claiming you can do this solo is a liar.

Going off grid and trying to hide isn't a survival strategy it's a bad tactical decision. You are giving up the initiative and letting your enemy decide when and where the fight will be.

[–] • 0 pt

The survivalist/prepper stuff is going to be necessary either way. The current system is headed for collapse and even if they can prop it up for a while, starvation is one of their main tactics (like in Soviet Russia) so it hardly hurts to be ready.

I've always understood it to be a temporary thing anyway. It's not like you can't sell or abandon a farm when you don't need it anymore.

Also consider where you are having these discussions, on the internet in a total surveillance state. You'd have to be a complete idiot or a fed to go online and push a killdozer battalion, even if it was a good solution (it really isn't though, not that you'd last long enough to build anything without food).

[–] • 1 pt

The survivalist/prepper stuff is going to be necessary either way. The current system is headed for collapse and even if they can prop it up for a while, starvation is one of their main tactics (like in Soviet Russia) so it hardly hurts to be ready.

That's still defeatist in nature. We've had time to think differently about starvation. If we all act as isolated individuals, then yes it's a problem. Acting as a community with a common interest would allow us to get creative and not starve. The jews of course want us to only consider the individual route that leads to starvation and death. It doesn't have to be this way. Whites have faced starvation before and we are much better equipped this time to let that do us in. We just can't act as selfish individuals because that's how the jews will defeat us. Community is key here.

[–] • 0 pt

Community is important but you're still going to need food for a community. If you want a better solution than separating from the system (that can be discussed on Poal) then the first step is to accept the fact that most humans are not capable of thought. They're meat robots who obey glowing screens. Control the screens, you control them.

[–] • 2 pts

accept the fact that most humans are not capable of thought. They're meat robots who obey glowing screens. Control the screens, you control them.

Sounds like it is imperative to gain control of the screens then.