I think I've made my points wrt operation warpspeed pretty clear in our discussions/debates over the past months and I stand behind all of them. We've been here many times Morbo, with about the same result (no change in opinion) every time.
He just had to allow the state and local governments to do it for him. He didn't put up much resistance to that so that makes him complicit.
Did you ever have US Civics in high school? Let me remind you of State's Rights: the rights and powers held by individual US states rather than by the federal government. All actions by the governors and mayors fall under states rights. Trump had no legal method to interfere.
So you are saying Trump should have taken unconstitutional actions to prevent the states from forcing their covid tyranny upon residents within their own states? Trump is all about the constitution. He let them do what what the constitution allowed them to do, and what a totalitarian shit show they gave us for all to see.
The only thing Trump had left that was good for the economy was gas prices. I'll give you that one.
The gas prices, inflation, employment, stock market, wars and rumors of war, mortgage rates, immigration, etc etc ad infinitum were dramatically better at the end of Trump's term pre-Biden. Trump had nearly recovered his record breaking pre-covid economy by the end of his term.
Did you ever have US Civics in high school? Let me remind you of State's Rights: the rights and powers held by individual US states rather than by the federal government. All actions by the governors and mayors fall under states rights. Trump had no legal method to interfere.
I did take Civics in high school. I also see how it applies in the real world over the decades. States can be influenced, legally, to act in certain ways by restricting their federal funding and other federal services. But legally is not how everything works. The federal government routinely interferes with state matters even if it is illegal. National borders are open, state schools are manipulated, state laws are overridden and many other gray area legal pressures are applied to get states to comply with federal policies. Trump could have done so many things to change the local government policies without it being illegal in the traditional sense.
So you are saying Trump should have taken unconstitutional actions to prevent the states from forcing their covid tyranny upon residents within their own states? Trump is all about the constitution. He let them do what what the constitution allowed them to do, and what a totalitarian shit show they gave us for all to see.
So he "let them do what the constitution allowed them to do"... Sounds like it wasn't tyranny if it was Constitutionally legal then.
The gas prices, inflation, employment, stock market, wars and rumors of war, mortgage rates, immigration, etc etc ad infinitum were dramatically better at the end of Trump's term pre-Biden. Trump had nearly recovered his record breaking pre-covid economy by the end of his term.
I guess you forgot the part about all the trillions of dollars that he gave out that led to the economy going to complete shit. That was only just starting to make its effects present at the end of his administration. Biden is a piece of shit, but he did inherit that massive increase in fake money and the burden it brings. I'll give biden the blame for all he has done to further ruin things, but the free trump-bux certainly belongs on Trump's list.
I think I've made my points wrt operation warpspeed pretty clear in our discussions/debates over the past months and I stand behind all of them. We've been here many times Morbo, with about the same result (no change in opinion) every time.
Yes, that's what hero worship gets you. I don't believe in heroes. God and Jesus are the only ones worthy of unconditional trust and faith. Trump is just a man and flawed in the same ways we all are.
National borders are open
Under Biden, not Trump. The control of the borders is under Federal control. AZ tried to protect their borders during Obummers reign, the Feds shut that down in the courts
state schools are manipulated
Through federal funding and Dept of Education, and the state's addiction to fed education monies.
The federal government routinely interferes with state matters even if it is illegal
It is up to the State to fight Federal overreach in the courts. If you have a Marxist Gov and Marxist overreach, there is usually no resistance offered by the state.
Trump could have done so many things to change the local government policies without it being illegal in the traditional sense.
If it was illegal or governmental overreach, he would not attempt it. If he had tried to force conservative principles onto Dem controlled states, they would rightly fight him in court and win.
Yes, that's what hero worship gets you.
Trump earned his "Hero" status from his promises made, promises kept, leadership and success at fighting for MAGA values. He is simply the leader of the movement, walks the walk, talks the talk, says what he does, does what he says, brought peace and prosperity to America against the severe headwinds of the (((DS))) fighting him every step of the way and planting land mines all around him. He brought home the bacon. He is the imperfect vessel leading the fight for us like no other in recent history. He has gained my love and respect. Worship? No, he is but a great man. Worship was an Obummer Cult thing of the past. Dem's worshipped (((Obummer))), (((MSM))) acolytes swooned on AF1 to glimpse the bulge in his pants, defended his lies and marxist policies by attempting to destroy anyone who opposed him instead of debating the merit of their positions.
I guess you forgot the part about all the trillions of dollars that he gave out that led to the economy going to complete shit.
This is new! Please elaborate on this. Trump couldn't get $5B out of the House to build the wall. Trump doesn't control the flow of money as POTUS. The House has the power of the purse.
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Trump stuff (not going to quote all that stuff)
So you just proved that he could have done a lot of stuff, legally, to affect how the states operated under the lockdowns. There wouldn't have been many lockdown states or cities if they hadn't been promoted at the federal level anyway, but he let Fauci and the CDC get away with them anyway.
National borders are open
Under Biden, not Trump. The control of the borders is under Federal control. AZ tried to protect their borders during Obummers reign, the Feds shut that down in the courts
I never said it was under Trump. I was saying that the federal government did this to interfere with state governments like in AZ and TX. You have Trump on the brain and assumed I was talking about a president rather than the government in whole.
I guess you forgot the part about all the trillions of dollars that he gave out that led to the economy going to complete shit.
This is new! Please elaborate on this. Trump couldn't get $5B out of the House to build the wall.
So you didn't receive two checks with Trump's signature on them? The Economic Stimulus checks that were sent out during Trump's administration cost us trillions of dollars borrowed from the (((fed))). He couldn't get wall money, but he was able to get trillions for (((stimulus))). He played the jew's game and got money but the jews didn't want a wall so they gave him nothing for it.
Trump doesn't control the flow of money as POTUS. The House has the power of the purse.
So now you admit that whole Q-hoax about Trump gaining control over the (((fed))) and Treasury was always a lie? The Qtards seemed to think that that move was the key to destroying the (((fed))) and (((irs))) and taking back America. Anyway, in the modern world, (((banks))) and (((corporate))) interests control the purse strings. They control the House and their bought and paid for puppets. Prove me wrong.
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