I'm in the control group there's no way in hell they giving me that shit
I'm in the control group there's no way in hell they giving me that shit
This is precisely why the only valid medical studies are double-blind studies. When the doctors don't even know which treatment is real vs. placebo you get more reliable results. This tells me that those administering the trial treatments knew which patients were getting placebos and which were getting the real deal. Emotions get in the way of things, and when doctors know which is which they have a tendency to surreptitiously move those they feel are more in need out of the control group. This throws all reliability of the study out the window.
This is precisely why the only valid medical studies are double-blind studies. When the doctors don't even know which treatment is real vs. placebo you get more reliable results. This tells me that those administering the trial treatments knew which patients were getting placebos and which were getting the real deal. Emotions get in the way of things, and when doctors know which is which they have a tendency to surreptitiously move those they feel are more in need out of the control group. This throws all reliability of the study out the window.
From the NPR article.
"But because the best evidence comes from a controlled study, Goodman is thinking about how those could be conducted ethically, now that there are effective vaccines available.
One option is to identify people who are in groups that are not currently eligible for a vaccine, as is happening now with children. Another option is to conduct studies in other parts of the world, where vaccines simply aren't available. But that raises ethical issues, as well: Why not provide those countries vaccine, rather than recruiting them for a study?
"But the fact is we do have an unfair world and there are inequities in global health and financing," Goodman says. So, offering people a chance to participate in a study could be ethical."
She admits we live in an "unfair world" when suggesting it is okay to use other countries to run experiments on vaxxes, but touts ethics when explaining why their control group was encouraged to fuck up their status as the control group.
From the NPR article.
"But because the best evidence comes from a controlled study, Goodman is thinking about how those could be conducted ethically, now that there are effective vaccines available.
One option is to identify people who are in groups that are not currently eligible for a vaccine, as is happening now with children. Another option is to conduct studies in other parts of the world, where vaccines simply aren't available. But that raises ethical issues, as well: Why not provide those countries vaccine, rather than recruiting them for a study?
"But the fact is we do have an unfair world and there are inequities in global health and financing," Goodman says. So, offering people a chance to participate in a study could be ethical."
She admits we live in an "unfair world" when suggesting it is okay to use other countries to run experiments on vaxxes, but touts ethics when explaining why their control group was encouraged to fuck up their status as the control group.
Control group? We're right here.
Control group? We're right here.
This is what happens when you let corporations do their own "science".
This is what happens when you let corporations do their own "science".
Terrible title.
Really means Pfizer vaccinated the placebo group after a short length of time so no there is no way to know if the vaccine causes greater harm than no vax.
Nothing was "lost". It was sabotaged.
Terrible title.
Really means Pfizer vaccinated the placebo group after a short length of time so no there is no way to know if the vaccine causes greater harm than no vax.
Nothing was "lost". It was sabotaged.
I'm wondering if china releases another bioweapon, the people who got the mRNAtrocity will be skeptical of taking anything for it, and everyone else will stick with HCQ and ivermectin, which might not work on the next one.
/thought
I'm wondering if china releases another bioweapon, the people who got the mRNAtrocity will be skeptical of taking anything for it, and everyone else will stick with HCQ and ivermectin, which might not work on the next one.
/thought
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.
Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:
(Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
“During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.”
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. “It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.
-AH-Aha!
HONK FUCKING HONK!!!!!!!
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.
Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:
(Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
“During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.”
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. **“It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.**
-AH-Aha!
HONK FUCKING HONK!!!!!!!
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