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Backstory:

Back in September, I requested a religious accommodation for the clot shot (and all other shots using fetal cells). Despite both my Chaplain and my Commander recommending it to be approved, some bastard with stars said "Fuck You." After which I submitted a strongly worded appeal that said "how dare you." Then some cunt with stars said "I'd also fuck you, I mean, Fuck You!"

So now my options are:

  1. Take the shot
  2. Request early separation with Honorable Discharge (Likely start terminal leave early July>officially separate Oct 1st)
  3. Say Fuck You>Paperwork X3 > General Discharge (Might buy a couple months, but I'd likely loose terminal leave)
Backstory: Back in September, I requested a religious accommodation for the clot shot (and all other shots using fetal cells). Despite both my Chaplain and my Commander recommending it to be approved, some bastard with stars said "Fuck You." After which I submitted a strongly worded appeal that said "how dare you." Then some cunt with stars said "I'd also fuck you, I mean, Fuck You!" So now my options are: 1. Take the shot 2. Request early separation with Honorable Discharge (Likely start terminal leave early July>officially separate Oct 1st) 3. Say Fuck You>Paperwork X3 > General Discharge (Might buy a couple months, but I'd likely loose terminal leave)

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[–] 8 pts

Take the honorable separation. Why be around those types of clowns. Next up you’ll be fighting not to take the small pox vaccine to prevent monkey pox or a new mRna monkey pox vaccine.

They’re offering $50,000 bonuses to get new recruits with little luck, let the military sink. You’ve done your time.

While I was in, I never realized i was just a security guard for jewish interests. Now I hate the fact I gave up those years.

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That's honestly what I'm afraid of. They'll come out with some new poison and I'll be in the same boat again. Or they'll update the flu shot and not make it widely known.

Feeling like I'm throwing away 10 years isn't an easy thing to do though. At this point I'm aware it's jewish interests, but I was hoping to get my retirement shekel and move on.

These past few years have mostly been me protecting those under me and to the side of me, while fucking those above me. It's the only reason I was willing to run programs like Motorcycle Safety, because it's gay and I have power to make it less gay if I lead it.

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I forgot about the flu shot lol. That could be anything this year. And moderna is also working on a flu/clot shot/some cold virus “vaccine”.

Are the ones you’re protecting take the shot? If not we aren’t they getting out as fast as possible.

I tossed 7 or so years away. The people you think you are protecting don’t care about you, it’s just in your head and a guilty feeling.

I did the same, my slot was deleted but stuck around to “protect others” instead of taking a cushy job and would’ve felt guilty if I did leave. Then I noticed at every opportunity they’d take the easy way out if they got a chance with no cares.

That’s when I decided to take an easy job for roughly my last two years and within a 6 months everyone I knew and was “protecting” were either gone or had moved on and didn’t want to hang out anymore.

But the guilt will kill you if you have to take a vax.

There’s a book from an LT that was a navy corpsman during Vietnam, he was assigned to battalion of marines but went on every mission with the battalion or recon troops and wouldn’t stay on base because he believed he was the only one that could save the troops he’d gotten to know.

He got rotated out after 6 months to a hospital in Saigon and felt so guilty and basically worried himself sick and would cry constantly. He claimed he was overly harsh on the hospital staff since they could go out and have fun while others weren’t as fortunate and were in the jungle fighting.

It’s not survivors guilt, I can’t recall what he called it but once I read his book that’s when I decided to leave for my cushy job and not reenlist. He found out the troops he’d left were in capable hands and finally started feeling less guilty.

And I was experimented on without my consent and only recently found out. The vaccine they claimed was given to use to “save our lives” was experimental and canceled in phase 1 human trials over safety concerns. I was never notified, I found it online. Fuck them.

And if you know you’re helping the jew that’s all the more reason. There’s an amazing life awaiting you outside the military, you just have to take the leap and think about yourself instead of others.

[–] 0 pt

>Take the honorable separation.

This is really the best answer. The honorable will let you qualify for all benefits you can.

Military service is valued on the outside. Remember to write the resume as if they are civilian style accomplishments from your work.

If the retirement time is an issue, well some states, offer the ability to buy retirement years for years of mil service, some are more limited than others if offering at all... Or the fed. I dont know of another option to get the time back for that.

[–] 2 pts

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/navy-board-votes-unanimously-retain-officer-didnt-commit-misconduct

Maybe dig into this story, see if there is any help. Do you have a lawyer? I understand they are different branches.

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I've seen that. So to be more specific, the civilian courts are moving too slow and the masses are already at the chopping block. If I refused, my commander would be obligated to request a general discharge. If I was a young airman, that'd be it.

However, there's a bit more to Option 3. Since I have enough time and rank (6 years or E-5), I'm entitled to a discharge board. This discharge board isn't court. It's with ranking officials. In this discharge board, we can argue that I should stay in, or get a General Discharge.

The few boards I've had a bit of insight into wouldn't even argue the legality of it, aka we'd most likely not even have an avenue for me to request staying in. The only thing they'd be willing to hear is whether or not I've had a good history, and if the bad (refusal) outweighs the good (deployments, awards/decs, special assignments)


To be short, Yes I personally would be entitled to a separation board if I refused. However, it's unlikely the board would even be willing to argue the legitimacy of the shot.

So I'd be throwing away a guaranteed Honorable for a slim shot of retention.

[–] 1 pt

Thanks for the clarification. When I read that article I thought maybe the tide was turning, faster. The military with everything aligned, is slow AF and they have every reason to drag their feet now..hope you get a decent board.

general becomes honorable after a time period. general under honorable conditions. fight this shit! are you in that telegram anti-covid shot military group? my kid has 14 years in and is fighting tooth and nail. getting ready to join a lawsuit, too.

[–] 0 pt

It's not automatic. After 6 months, you can send a request to the VA to upgrade it, but it's not guaranteed. As far as telegram goes, I might be in the same group, but it's a federal group, not a military one. I have ones on Signal as well.

This is the motivation I need to hear though.

Honorable separation.

You gotta look out for #1. Take your skills elsewhere. Let the system crumble under the weight of it's own terrible decisions.

[–] 1 pt

there is a new lawsuit about the shot right now, as the shot was never fully approved and forced onto service members

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I saw that. I wish I saw it when they were still accepting plaintiffs.

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In 2000 I was a civilian contractor to the US military in the Middle East. They came out with a requirement of a mandatory anthrax vaccine, a 6 shot series. Heard lots of stories about GIs getting sick, having runny abscess sores at the injection sight. Put it off as long as I could and was told 'go get it right now, or you're fired'. So went to the infirmary, told the enlisted medic that came in to give me the shot I really didn't want it, but had to have it in my records to keep my job and laid $100 on the table. He looked at me, at the money, squirted the syringe into the trashcan, filled out the form and walked out with the money. 2 months later the shots were no longer required.

Maybe you can find a friendly medic?

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Probably not something that'll happen nowadays. People are too scared of OSI. I'd have better luck with copying my coworkers vax cards, though I'm probably way past the point of pulling that off.

That is something that crossed my mind, but I'm worried that they'll require booster shots and I'll be suck in a corner.

[–] 0 pt

Just hop out with your honorable...other branches have been taking up to six months to kick their people out. If you decide on the board, know that a 22yr officer on the Bunker Hill beat his. You may be confident in that after ten years, but why risk it. Do something else federal for your retirement if it's important to you, but be sure to pick something less-jewed than the mil.

[–] 0 pt

If I get out, I want to fully get out. No more papa government looming over me. Not to mention that Xeneral Biden is trying to fuck over federal workers as well, but is having a slightly harder time because the USDA and DOT don't tend to deploy very often.

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The forest service always had my eye, to go see what theyre up to with the samsquanches. But i hear the hate.

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If you are serious about the religious circumstances then listen to God.