PBS did a write-up that covers all angles of this conversation including the best research we have on effectiveness and Omicron:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/how-effective-are-covid-19-vaccines-against-omicron
Key takeaway:
The preliminary data about omicron and vaccines is coming in quickly and is revealing lower vaccine effectiveness. Best estimates suggest vaccines are around 30%-40% effective at preventing infections and 70% effective at preventing severe disease.
That's a farcry away from the 95% effectiveness they showed against Alpha, which is what they were originally designed to target.
We have Flu vaccines each year but it looks like the pharmaceutical industry needs to step up their game to come up with an annual COVID-XX vaccine if they want to save old people from dying from VRIs.
Here is the Dutch study that I could find and I do not find the table the man refers to in his screenshot:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21268121v1.full-text
Not sure what he's referencing.
Here's the South African pre-print study on Omicron and vaccine effectiveness (or the reduced effectiveness):
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.08.21267417v3.full-text
And here's the UK's:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.10.21267534v1.full
Also, and this is a big deal, these same studies show a higher risk for previously infected people. Meaning, those that got sick and got over the illness on their own are also at an increased risk of getting sick from Omicron. While Omicron may be less deadly, it seems to skirt around immunity a lot better than Delta. This is not a good thing. The successor to Omicron is going to be pretty shit.
Ha,ha,ha anything pbs spews out is nothing more than the arm of the dnc.
Ha,ha,ha anything pbs spews out is nothing more than the arm of the dnc.
It doesn't matter if you believe this. This isn't a write-up on politics, this is a science piece and all their points are cited with actual research. Unlike the constant deluge of anti-science, misinformation articles posted on poal about the vaccines, their points directly tie back to an actual study and they are not lying. I've commented around dozens of times, now, on the articles some of you fools are posting on Poal where the authors cite a study but say the opposite of what the study says. This is not the case in this PBS article and is actually quite a good write-up. You'd think someone like you would be happy about that because some of what they talk about his the grossly diminished capacity of the vaccines against Omicron.
You need to learn how to separate your bias away from facts. If you run into facts that clearly shows your opinion is wrong, you need to adjust your opinion and figure out what you new bias should look like.
PBS has the credibility of a Pfizer spokesperson.
Logically the jabs have zero effectiveness against any variant because they only provide protection against one spike protein. And it is the spike protein which is most likely to mutate.
PBS has the credibility of a Pfizer spokesperson.
It doesn't matter if you believe this. This isn't a write-up on politics, this is a science piece and all their points are cited with actual research. Unlike the constant deluge of anti-science, misinformation articles posted on poal about the vaccines, their points directly tie back to an actual study and they are not lying. I've commented around dozens of times, now, on the articles some of you fools are posting on Poal where the authors cite a study but say the opposite of what the study says. This is not the case in this PBS article and is actually quite a good write-up. You'd think someone like you would be happy about that because some of what they talk about his the grossly diminished capacity of the vaccines against Omicron.
You need to learn how to separate your bias away from facts. If you run into facts that clearly shows your opinion is wrong, you need to adjust your opinion and figure out what you new bias should look like.
Logically the jabs have zero effectiveness against any variant because they only provide protection against one spike protein. And it is the spike protein which is most likely to mutate.
And this comment of yours shows your ignorance. Multiple antigens are targeted on the spike protein. What's different about Omicron is the 20+ mutations on the spike protein which makes it harder for the immunological factors to target in the vaccines. It's like the virus put on camouflage for your immune system. And the vaccines are not the only thing affected by this large set of mutations - natural immunity is also significantly less effective against Omicron. You'd know this if you didn't piss your pants about the link that aggregates all the research we currently have on Omicron and actually read it.
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