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There is no such thing as "excessive use of raw materials." Please understand this, people. We can use as many raw materials as we want or need. There is nothing evil about the use of energy, water, oil, coal, or minerals. How much pollution this use causes depends on how these activities are managed, and in the West we manage them very well.

This is not the case with India and China, which are massive polluters -- and I'm not talking about carbon dioxide, which is not a pollutant, I'm talking about garbage, plastics, waste, heavy metals, particulates in the air, poison in the rivers. We do an excellent job overall of avoiding this pollution. India, China, and most Third World countries do an incredibly shitty job.

That's the reality. We in the West should be praised, not criticized -- we need to be pointing the finger at the true offenders, and it isn't Western countries.

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in the West we manage them very well

by buying them from countries with no enforced standards

garbage, plastics, waste, heavy metals, particulates in the air, poison in the rivers. We do an excellent job overall of avoiding this pollution

and they should too, it doesn't matter which country dumps their waste in the water, it will end up in the oceans for all

India, China, and most Third World

India and China are 3rd world countries

we need to be pointing the finger at the true offenders, and it isn't Western countries

we need more than finger pointing, we need to enforce some standards on materials we buy, but that's not as cheap.