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This is a VERY interesting debate, I'm 1:38:38 and it delivers
Gentile: "The lost nations of Israel."
Gentile: "The lost nations of Israel."
Gentile: very broad term roughly equating to ‘nation’. Can apply to any nation including Israel, but often assumed to apply to non-Israelite or non-Jewish nations. Strong's Greek: 1484. ἔθνος (ethnos) -- a race, a nation, pl. the nations (as distinct from Isr.) [Probably from etho; a race (as of the same habit), i.e. A tribe; specially, a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually, by implication, pagan) -- Gentile, heathen, nation, people.] Strong's Hebrew: 1471. גּוֹי (goy) -- nation, people [Rarely (shortened) goy {go'-ee}; apparently from the same root as gevah (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence, a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts -- Gentile, heathen, nation, people.]
Gentile: very broad term roughly equating to ‘nation’. Can apply to any nation including Israel, but often assumed to apply to non-Israelite or non-Jewish nations.
Strong's Greek: 1484. ἔθνος (ethnos) -- a race, a nation, pl. the nations (as distinct from Isr.) [Probably from etho; a race (as of the same habit), i.e. A tribe; specially, a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually, by implication, pagan) -- Gentile, heathen, nation, people.]
Strong's Hebrew: 1471. גּוֹי (goy) -- nation, people [Rarely (shortened) goy {go'-ee}; apparently from the same root as gevah (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence, a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts -- Gentile, heathen, nation, people.]
Now look at the roots and original context. It can only mean what I provided.
Now look at the roots and original context. It can only mean what I provided.
Brown-Driver-Briggs:
a. specifically of descendants of Abraham, גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 12:2; compare Genesis 18:18 (both J), גּוֺיִם Genesis 17:6, הֲמוֺן גּוֺיִםGenesis 17:4,15 (all P); of Sarah גּוֺיִםGenesis 17:16 (P); of Ishmael גּוֺי Genesis 21:13, גָּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 21:18 (both E), גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 17:20 (P); of Jacob גּוֺי וּקְהַל גּוֺיִם Genesis 35:11 (P), גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 46:3 (E); of Ephraim ׳מְלֹא הַגּ Genesis 48:19(J); of Moses גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Exodus 32:10 (J) compare Numbers 14:12 (J) Deuteronomy 9:14; of Jacob and Esau as two nationsGenesis 25:23 (J).
b. definitely of Israel Exodus 19:6 (קָדוֺשׁ׳גּ) Exodus 33:13 (both J E), Deuteronomy 4:6 (הַגּוֺי הַגָּדוֺל הַזֶּה, said by heathen compare Deuteronomy 4:7; Deuteronomy 4:8) see also Deuteronomy 4:34, Deuteronomy 26:5 compare Psalm 33:12; Psalm 83:5 (said by enemies) Jeremiah 31:36; Jeremiah 33:24; Ezekiel 37:22; in narrative Joshua 3:17; Joshua 4:1; Joshua 5:8 (JE), Joshua 5:6 (D), Joshua 10:13 (in poetry, no article); of Israel and Judah as two nations Ezekiel 35:10 (said by heathen) Ezekiel 37:22; of Judah Isaiah 26:2,15 (twice in verse); compare Isaiah 58:2; Isaiah 60:22; Micah 4:7; once my peopleZephaniah 2:9 ("" עַם); thy people Psalm 106:5 (i.e. of ׳י), compare also Ezekiel 36:13,14 (read Kt); especially of Israel and (or) Judah as sinful, rebellious Deuteronomy 32:28; Judges 2:20; Isaiah 1:4; Isaiah 10:6; Jeremiah 5:9,29; Jeremiah 7:28; Jeremiah 9:8; Jeremiah 12:17; Ezekiel 2:3 (strike out ᵐ5 Co) Haggai 2:14; Malachi 3:9. — Note. This definite reference to Israel and (or) Judah is comparatively rare; in Hexateuch not P (yet see Genesis 17:4,5,6,16; Genesis 35:11 P); seldom in exile & post-exile prophets; not Chronicles —
c. usually of non-Hebrew peoples Exodus 9:24; Exodus 34:10 (JE) Leviticus 25:44 (H) Numbers 14:15 (J) Deuteronomy 15:6 (twice in verse); 1 Kings 5:11; 1 Chronicles 14:17; 1 Chronicles 16:20; Isaiah 11:10,12 + often; opposed to Israel as ׳עם י 2 Samuel 7:23; 1 Chronicles 17:21 (twice in verse) etc., see עם, compare also Numbers 23:9; note especially גְּלִיל הַגּוֺיִם Isaiah 8:23 circle or district of the nations (see גָּלִיל); also ׳חֲרשֶׁת הַגּ Judges 4:2,13,16 Charosheth of the nations, & מֶלֶךְ גּוֺיִם לְגִלְגָּ֖ל Joshua 12:23king of nations (peoples, tribes) belonging to Gilgal (ᵐ5 Di to the district, i.e 'Galilee'); especially of these peoples as heathen: idolatrous Leviticus 8:24,28 (P) Leviticus 20:23 (H) 1 Kings 14:24; 2 Kings 17:8,11,15,26,29 (twice in verse); 2Chronicles 28:3; 32:13 +, Ezra 6:21; Ezekiel 5:6 +; hostile Genesis 15:14 (J) Leviticus 26:33,38,45 (H) Deuteronomy 4:27; Deuteronomy 9:4,5; Deuteronomy 18:9; 1 Chronicles 16:35; Jeremiah 5:15; Ezekiel 4:13 #NAME? Jeremiah Ezekiel, etc.; in simile Ezekiel 20:32; Ezekiel 25:8; sometimes "" עַם Psalm 33:10; Psalm 33:12; Isaiah 11:10; Jeremiah 6:18, see also Isaiah 2:2,4 compare with Micah 4:1,3.
Brown-Driver-Briggs:
a. specifically of descendants of Abraham, גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 12:2; compare Genesis 18:18 (both J), גּוֺיִם Genesis 17:6, הֲמוֺן גּוֺיִםGenesis 17:4,15 (all P); of Sarah גּוֺיִםGenesis 17:16 (P); of Ishmael גּוֺי Genesis 21:13, גָּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 21:18 (both E), גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 17:20 (P); of Jacob גּוֺי וּקְהַל גּוֺיִם Genesis 35:11 (P), גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Genesis 46:3 (E); of Ephraim ׳מְלֹא הַגּ Genesis 48:19(J); of Moses גּוֺי גָּדוֺל Exodus 32:10 (J) compare Numbers 14:12 (J) Deuteronomy 9:14; of Jacob and Esau as two nationsGenesis 25:23 (J).
b. definitely of Israel Exodus 19:6 (קָדוֺשׁ׳גּ) Exodus 33:13 (both J E), Deuteronomy 4:6 (הַגּוֺי הַגָּדוֺל הַזֶּה, said by heathen compare Deuteronomy 4:7; Deuteronomy 4:8) see also Deuteronomy 4:34, Deuteronomy 26:5 compare Psalm 33:12; Psalm 83:5 (said by enemies) Jeremiah 31:36; Jeremiah 33:24; Ezekiel 37:22; in narrative Joshua 3:17; Joshua 4:1; Joshua 5:8 (JE), Joshua 5:6 (D), Joshua 10:13 (in poetry, no article); of Israel and Judah as two nations Ezekiel 35:10 (said by heathen) Ezekiel 37:22; of Judah Isaiah 26:2,15 (twice in verse); compare Isaiah 58:2; Isaiah 60:22; Micah 4:7; once my peopleZephaniah 2:9 ("" עַם); thy people Psalm 106:5 (i.e. of ׳י), compare also Ezekiel 36:13,14 (read Kt); especially of Israel and (or) Judah as sinful, rebellious Deuteronomy 32:28; Judges 2:20; Isaiah 1:4; Isaiah 10:6; Jeremiah 5:9,29; Jeremiah 7:28; Jeremiah 9:8; Jeremiah 12:17; Ezekiel 2:3 (strike out ᵐ5 Co) Haggai 2:14; Malachi 3:9. — Note. This definite reference to Israel and (or) Judah is comparatively rare; in Hexateuch not P (yet see Genesis 17:4,5,6,16; Genesis 35:11 P); seldom in exile & post-exile prophets; not Chronicles —
c. usually of non-Hebrew peoples Exodus 9:24; Exodus 34:10 (JE) Leviticus 25:44 (H) Numbers 14:15 (J) Deuteronomy 15:6 (twice in verse); 1 Kings 5:11; 1 Chronicles 14:17; 1 Chronicles 16:20; Isaiah 11:10,12 + often; opposed to Israel as ׳עם י 2 Samuel 7:23; 1 Chronicles 17:21 (twice in verse) etc., see עם, compare also Numbers 23:9; note especially גְּלִיל הַגּוֺיִם Isaiah 8:23 circle or district of the nations (see גָּלִיל); also ׳חֲרשֶׁת הַגּ Judges 4:2,13,16 Charosheth of the nations, & מֶלֶךְ גּוֺיִם לְגִלְגָּ֖ל Joshua 12:23king of nations (peoples, tribes) belonging to Gilgal (ᵐ5 Di to the district, i.e 'Galilee'); especially of these peoples as heathen: idolatrous Leviticus 8:24,28 (P) Leviticus 20:23 (H) 1 Kings 14:24; 2 Kings 17:8,11,15,26,29 (twice in verse); 2Chronicles 28:3; 32:13 +, Ezra 6:21; Ezekiel 5:6 +; hostile Genesis 15:14 (J) Leviticus 26:33,38,45 (H) Deuteronomy 4:27; Deuteronomy 9:4,5; Deuteronomy 18:9; 1 Chronicles 16:35; Jeremiah 5:15; Ezekiel 4:13 #NAME? Jeremiah Ezekiel, etc.; in simile Ezekiel 20:32; Ezekiel 25:8; sometimes "" עַם Psalm 33:10; Psalm 33:12; Isaiah 11:10; Jeremiah 6:18, see also Isaiah 2:2,4 compare with Micah 4:1,3.
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