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I read both OT/NT, and i always come into confusion around Bible, what it says vs how its practiced today

The first example, Bible says no sex before marriage, which is great to me. But then the question becomes, well what exactly is a marriage? If i date someone for a year or we have a civil union, domestic partnership, is that considered marriage? And if we must use the state, we start delving into worldly syncretisms instead that aren't of God. Furthermore if the current regime hates our guts, why would Christians want to even play by the rules of TPTB, if they know those rules are made incredibly complicated for someone else's amusement? What if you already have sex with them, are you then considered married since you created a covenant? Per John the Baptist you are, but per other parts of the Bible, you aren't. By design, a Christian couple would need to get married pretty quickly per Corinthians, and yet this passage is completely ignored by most churches. So is Ephesians, where the man is head of the household, and no female pastors, and yet both of these exist.

Then there's the poverty angle which is being used against us. The Bible never says once to help others by destroying your nation and emptying your coffers and generosity to invaders. And yet, every church I have ever gone to always states we have to do just that. And they always push Leviticus and the tithing for their own operations by guilt tripping you into paying up a certain part of your income to the church, some even went so far as saying pre-tax, which makes the tithing way more than 10%. If you make 50,000 and you pay 5,000 pre tax money, it's like paying 15% post tax money when accounting for a 25% tax rate. One church even went as far to say God wants you to enjoy the other 90%, but chunking out 10% of someone's income is a lot to ask for, especially when the entire world is imploding and the dollar is deflating in value every day.

But then they also say the OT is obsolete ... except for that ONE tithing clause. And i read the clause, and nowhere does it say the money goes to the church, it says 10% for the community to be used in times of need. Where the heck does the common day corporate church fit in? And if a church is its own corporate entity, how can it truly represent the will of the people? Don't agree, and find a new church, but that's not very Christ like at all. I've seen it happen where church members leave a church over a disagreement, which is deeply ironic because that same pastor talked about the book of Mathew on disagreements.

And the thing is im a strong believer, but it seems to me that whilst the Bible is very clear in a theocracy or a white ethno centric Christian nation, it completely falls apart when the nation is a melting pot of different ideaologies. Christianity will never work with Islam, nor does it work with talmudic parasites who believe the opposite of Christianity.

I read both OT/NT, and i always come into confusion around Bible, what it says vs how its practiced today The first example, Bible says no sex before marriage, which is great to me. But then the question becomes, well what exactly is a marriage? If i date someone for a year or we have a civil union, domestic partnership, is that considered marriage? And if we must use the state, we start delving into worldly syncretisms instead that aren't of God. Furthermore if the current regime hates our guts, why would Christians want to even play by the rules of TPTB, if they know those rules are made incredibly complicated for someone else's amusement? What if you already have sex with them, are you then considered married since you created a covenant? Per John the Baptist you are, but per other parts of the Bible, you aren't. By design, a Christian couple would need to get married pretty quickly per Corinthians, and yet this passage is completely ignored by most churches. So is Ephesians, where the man is head of the household, and no female pastors, and yet both of these exist. Then there's the poverty angle which is being used against us. The Bible never says once to help others by destroying your nation and emptying your coffers and generosity to invaders. And yet, every church I have ever gone to always states we have to do just that. And they always push Leviticus and the tithing for their own operations by guilt tripping you into paying up a certain part of your income to the church, some even went so far as saying pre-tax, which makes the tithing way more than 10%. If you make 50,000 and you pay 5,000 pre tax money, it's like paying 15% post tax money when accounting for a 25% tax rate. One church even went as far to say God wants you to enjoy the other 90%, but chunking out 10% of someone's income is a lot to ask for, especially when the entire world is imploding and the dollar is deflating in value every day. But then they also say the OT is obsolete ... except for that ONE tithing clause. And i read the clause, and nowhere does it say the money goes to the church, it says 10% for the community to be used in times of need. Where the heck does the common day corporate church fit in? And if a church is its own corporate entity, how can it truly represent the will of the people? Don't agree, and find a new church, but that's not very Christ like at all. I've seen it happen where church members leave a church over a disagreement, which is deeply ironic because that same pastor talked about the book of Mathew on disagreements. And the thing is im a strong believer, but it seems to me that whilst the Bible is very clear in a theocracy or a white ethno centric Christian nation, it completely falls apart when the nation is a melting pot of different ideaologies. Christianity will never work with Islam, nor does it work with talmudic parasites who believe the opposite of Christianity.

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Damnit I was in the middle of a very large reply and I somehow lost it all…

To sum up, the only way to truly understand the Bible to through the illumination of the Holy Spirit. Humanity is legalistic by nature, and we will always seek to find loopholes in the written word to justify our behavior. But did not Jesus say that even those who look at a woman with lust in their hearts commit adultery? So be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Focus your mind on the things of the spirit, and not on the things of the flesh and this world, and you will begin to understand. Ask God to open the eyes of your understanding, and read the scriptures with a humble heart, and God will show you…

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The only way the Bible has ever fully made sense to me is through the lens of Calvinism.

It’s very hard to reconcile many parts, if not most, of the Bible (both halves) with the idea that God loves everyone or wants everyone to be saved

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That idea was made up by false believers. The bible nowhere tells you those things. People make shit up to make themselves or other feel better. After the self esteem movement is when it started with tolerating shit until now where we get faggot preachers and satanic churches.

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To me it seems likely that the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy was created by people in power specifically to deceive the masses, to give them false hope and placate them into subservience while willingly paying both their taxes and their tithes to the same group. Eventually protestant religions split away from the government’s church, but a benevolent god was still more palatable than actually taking the writings at face value and the majority of them kept teaching the same ideas

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A "concordance" can add color to the text, including the meaning of translations etc.

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What they said. Add prayer.

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Christianity will never work with Islam, nor does it work with talmudic parasites who believe the opposite of Christianity.

Christianity was shaped and developed in a white European society by white Europeans over a period of almost two thousand years. Isn't it obvious to everyone that Christianity is the religion of ther white race? Other races may call themselves Christian, but genetically Christianity is the white religion. Of course it won't work for other races. It was developed and designed to work for white Europeans, and whites in their colonies such as America. It produced modern Western technological civilization. When it falls into the hands of other races, it will cease to be productive.

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If you believe the OT is "obsolete", you didnt read the NT where Christ explicitly says otherwise.

I didn't say it was, however a lot of pastors around me try to say as such

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it is "spirit and it is truth' it is written in signs and symbols...the words have a spiritual meaning and we are to "compare spiritual with spiritual" the words in the OT often tell us what the NT means

throw out "context" the bible is written "here a little there a little line upon line ,precept upon precept

We are to SEE ?that we live by every word" how do we see that every word every story relates to us in our journey as we go from death to life ..flesh to spirit.. the old man to the new creation

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Have a higher then 80 IQ and be able to understand that wherever it says "jew" it means either of pharisee or Judean. Understand that the state, good or bad, is irrelevant in the eyes of the Lord and for you to think it matters with regard to these things is retarded.

there exist things that contradict The Holy Bible

Yes. Because jews. Now move on with that 80 IQ business.

churches do things The Holy Bible doesn't say to do

Yes. Because jews. See above. This can't be real. It just can't.

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The New Testament is the Christian Bible. It derives some things from the Old Testament, such as the Ten Commandments, but very little of the Old Testament applies to Christianity, which is a departure from Judaism. Get that? It's a departure, not a continuation or an extension. It puts the jealous Old Testament god of the mountain behind it.

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In order to believe this you’d have to believe that God had a certain plan and attitude toward humanity and then just changed his mind halfway through. God is still jealous and still takes no issue with delivering lifelong suffering along with eternal death to those he has not chosen

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In my experience it is easier to understand if you do not read it in English. Seriously.

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