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I’ve wrestled with this for a while, just want to see what you guys think.

We’re commanded to forgive as God has forgiven. Ok, fair enough. Seems a simple concept at face value.

But when you really dig in, what does that mean?

Most Christians say that forgiveness is something you do, regardless of whether the offending party confesses, apologizes, or repents.

But then look at how God operates. He requires confession and repentance for forgiveness. Neither is optional.

So then, God holds us to a higher standard than even himself in this regard?

That doesn’t seem logical or reasonable to me. But hey, perhaps I’m wrong. I’m just thinking nakedly here.

I’ve also heard a pastor say that forgiving someone - regardless of a confession or apology - allows God to take up your case. The analogy being that in a court of law, it’s better to let the judge take up the case than to take it up yourself. Ok, I can see the logic in that, too.

But I’m still flummoxed by the idea that we are held to a higher standard than God holds for himself. Again, he requires confession and repentance for forgiveness.

I’ve wrestled with this for a while, just want to see what you guys think. We’re commanded to forgive as God has forgiven. Ok, fair enough. Seems a simple concept at face value. But when you really dig in, what does that mean? Most Christians say that forgiveness is something you do, regardless of whether the offending party confesses, apologizes, or repents. But then look at how God operates. He *requires* confession and repentance for forgiveness. Neither is optional. So then, God holds us to a higher standard than even himself in this regard? That doesn’t seem logical or reasonable to me. But hey, perhaps I’m wrong. I’m just thinking nakedly here. I’ve also heard a pastor say that forgiving someone - regardless of a confession or apology - allows God to take up your case. The analogy being that in a court of law, it’s better to let the judge take up the case than to take it up yourself. Ok, I can see the logic in that, too. But I’m still flummoxed by the idea that we are held to a higher standard than God holds for himself. Again, he *requires* confession and repentance for forgiveness.

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God loves us as he loves himself, because we are all a part of him. That does not mean that God is going to always do exactly what you, puny human, may think you want him to do.

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God Hates us like he hates himself.

He created the Universe and allowed the existence of suffering.

And I don't want anything from him.

What I want is Good, and achievable.

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God loves you because he created you and you were by his side existing in perfect peace in heaven. But after eons of existing, you sinned and fallen here to earth in delusion and you can't remember your true self. A part of you remembers, but Satan is always invading your thoughts with distraction by stroking your ego. Forgive, and God will forgive you and will start waking you up. Pray every morning and night silently by ignoring your thoughts. All your thoughts are lie's. And don't pray for anything because you don't know what you need. Only God knows. Once In a while god will speak to you in a voiceless voice and you will wake up bit by bit. He wants you back. But he has to follow the rules set here on earth.