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Salvation, its one of the core tenants of the nt, and yet it seems like its completely misunderstood by churches and people alike. so the question becomes, if you are saved and either continue to sin, or commit a sin, were you ever saved in the first place? this applies more to issues like gays being saved, or crypto kikes pretending to be christian to co opt an entire race of people to self delete themselves.

we have a lot of false doctrine churches incorrectly preaching and committing to wrongful attitudes to doctrines: letting female pastors lead, endorsing homosexual behavior, relaxing the rules on most any kind of pre marital sins, implying that certain sins are less grave than others (the complete opposite of what i was taught), focussing too much on the church finances over its people, etc. really, the church as a corporate body these days care more about its image to liberalism, than it does the bible, and its starting to become more apparent that its alienating everyone. i even had a conversation with my buddy about this, and he was saying the same thing: all this is doing is driving people away from contemporary churches, into more home based churches. not really a bad thing honestly, but churches these days care way too much about appearance, and not delving into actual subjects that matter, always the same books, the same service, the same everything. yesterday i went to service, and the message was an almost identical copy to copy message of a service i had heard from another pastor, a year ago, its like they share notes or something

the gravity of sin is an interesting one too, since jesus died for all sins, not just a select few types of sins. to state with assurance he only died for some sins, implies some people will be going to hell regardless of any salvation done by jesus, meaning his sacrifice was worthless to us. and yet ... people believe this makes sense. i can understand you want to become more like god, and you want to walk in the footsteps of jesus, but on the other hand, the entire point of jesus was to show that whilst the commandments are easy on paper, they are very hard to adhere to in real life, and most people will fail and need to learn how to follow all those commandments in proper timing (the bible even mentions this point, and its completely ignored). this is exactly like what the calvinists believe, but on a somehow more broken level.

Salvation, its one of the core tenants of the nt, and yet it seems like its completely misunderstood by churches and people alike. so the question becomes, if you are saved and either continue to sin, or commit a sin, were you ever saved in the first place? this applies more to issues like gays being saved, or crypto kikes pretending to be christian to co opt an entire race of people to self delete themselves. we have a lot of false doctrine churches incorrectly preaching and committing to wrongful attitudes to doctrines: letting female pastors lead, endorsing homosexual behavior, relaxing the rules on most any kind of pre marital sins, implying that certain sins are less grave than others (the complete opposite of what i was taught), focussing too much on the church finances over its people, etc. really, the church as a corporate body these days care more about its image to liberalism, than it does the bible, and its starting to become more apparent that its alienating everyone. i even had a conversation with my buddy about this, and he was saying the same thing: all this is doing is driving people away from contemporary churches, into more home based churches. not really a bad thing honestly, but churches these days care way too much about appearance, and not delving into actual subjects that matter, always the same books, the same service, the same everything. yesterday i went to service, and the message was an almost identical copy to copy message of a service i had heard from another pastor, a year ago, its like they share notes or something the gravity of sin is an interesting one too, since jesus died for all sins, not just a select few types of sins. to state with assurance he only died for some sins, implies some people will be going to hell regardless of any salvation done by jesus, meaning his sacrifice was worthless to us. and yet ... people believe this makes sense. i can understand you want to become more like god, and you want to walk in the footsteps of jesus, but on the other hand, the entire point of jesus was to show that whilst the commandments are easy on paper, they are very hard to adhere to in real life, and most people will fail and need to learn how to follow all those commandments in proper timing (the bible even mentions this point, and its completely ignored). this is exactly like what the calvinists believe, but on a somehow more broken level.

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This was a rather shitty post. Between the totally false statements and your inability to support any claim from the text, I am left with no choice but to believe that you have no idea what you're talking about. For example:

most people will fail

doesn't work with "all have sinned" (or really the entire 3rd chapter of Romans).

the commandments are easy on paper

LOL

i can try rewriting the post, it was a pretty ... weird service that left me with more questions than answers, because his message was such a harshly different way of thinking about the Bible than im used to. It came off more as a scary, Calvinistic (he mentioned Arminianism so im thinking he came from that background hence the way he was talking) principle than anything based off the Biblical teachings im used to. Technically God hates all sin equally, its not like he gives you a pass because the sin was against yourself vs others, so to imply a severity scale to sin to me is really weird and against what i read from the Bible.