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[–] • 16 pts

100% this. It's the old saying misery loves company. "I want to do bad shit, but I don't want to feel shame, so please validate me." No, fuck you, shame is there to remind you that you fucked up.

[–] • 2 pts

'100% this'. Leave this intro on Reddit for fucksake. Shit's goddamn annoying almost as bad as 'red flag'

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

uptooted

[–] • 0 pt

Next thing they're going to be putting their gender pronouns in their comments.

[–] • 0 pt

Agreed, this is what it is all about. And, realistically, we are simply going to have to implement ruthless christian theocratic rule in the west without exception, because, they people are not interested in being free and living how they want to live, they are interested only in conquest and domination.

Which, is basically, just saying this is how to human and either you are dominating or someone else is.

[–] • 0 pt

Go read up on the early days of Pennsylvania from before it was a state.

[–] • 0 pt

tl;dr?

[–] • 5 pts

Makes the Christian sound impotent, honestly. If you won't wield power and attempt to control behaviour in society at large, then you're destined to be compromised and defeated. Also, "what's best for you" doesn't sound like a reasonable moral standard (isn't morality about what's best for the collective?). What this meme fails to recognize (and even signals against) is that more 'hateful' and intolerant populations have a much better chance of defending their values, nations and blood against would be usurpers. Anger isn't always a bad thing.

[–] • 1 pt

Christianity's greatest flaw is their extreme inclusivity. I look at how man schisms and divides the many denominations have undergone and I see an ideology that has no possible way to regain soveriegnty. It's funny because this post perfectly elucidates the failings of Christianity while pretending like it's a reason for it's success. The only reason why Christianity was successful in the first place was because Constantine used the power of the state to force it on people as the official religion. This is no longer the case and I firmly believe it will never again be as popular as it once was. While I do respect it's attempt to guide people to a path that would most likely allow them to achieve a harmonious lifestyle, I do not believe all people actually want a harmonious lifestyle. I think people, because of my own personal experiences, want to know the truth above all else. And Christianity simply isn't equipped with the tools necessary to arrive at truth without doubt and certainty without error.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Actually Christianity was dominant well over 1,000 years after that simply because of two things; it was near exclusively White and utterly intolerant of anything else. Things like "turn the other cheek" and "we're all the same" style bullshit are modern inventions designed intentionally to weaken us. Christians of past centuries would take one look at this fagged up wreck of a world and put every goddamned pedo, politician and world leader in sight to the sword.

[–] • 0 pt

Yes I agree. That was my point. Constantine started the trend that you speak of. I didn't clearly account for where this trend ceases because thay was a gradual denouement that did occur over 2000 years as you have stated.

However, the intolerance towards new ideas is the problem with Christianity as well. When Galileo received his abjuration from the Catholic Church in 1633 he stated in a letter:

"The Holy Spirit intended to teach us in the Bible how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go."

https://archive.ph/ORr2l

My point is that although Christian religion will lend itself to social harmony, that will only last until the next extinction level event occurs. We live in a chaotic universe with immense forces we do not yet understand completely. Continuing to live blissfully unaware of the greater universe is the price one must pay for social harmony. This is a price we cannot afford if our goal is to perpetuate the human species for as long as possible.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

Exactly.

I think abortion is an abhorrent sin against God, but if you want to pay a private physician out of pocket, I believe that is between you and God. Not my business.

What I can’t have is my tax dollars paying for mass abortion.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

One of the few legitimate, God-ordained functions of government is to punish evil. Romans 13:1-4

I'm happy to criminalize it and put the "doctors" on death row.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Yes this^

I think that if someone wants to do something to themselves (or between two consenting people) which I don’t agree with, that’s between them and God.

But the moment it affects someone else, it’s not the same thing. Abortion affects someone else negatively without their consent, namely, the baby.

Apples and oranges.

One can’t say “abortion paid for out of pocket is between them and god” anymore than they can say “if someone pays a hit man to kill person x, that’s between them and god.”

No. It’s between them, god, and the victim. Period.

[–] • 1 pt

Oh really, do you hold the same philosophy for pedos and rapists?

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

1 Corinthians 5

9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

In other words, the wicked abound in the world and in order to conduct your business sometimes you have to deal with them, but you don't have to associate with or call them brother.

[–] • 1 pt

"Do your business as in the rain" we used to hear.

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It's more than that. Christianity is the greatest religion in the world. If everyone acted like a true Christian, this world would be paradise. ... But there are jews and muslims that hate us.

They laugh in our face as we turn the other cheek. They take all our gibs that we gib in the name of Christianity. They kill us and our children and we forgive them.

Christianity is the greatest religion on earth, but only if everyone is a Christian.

Everyone is not a Christian.

If you keep turning the other cheek, soon they will take over Hollywood and there will be sodomites dancing in the streets with rainbow dildos and your 6-year-old kid gawking at their dicks. Their rainbow dicks.

[–] • 1 pt

this is because others don't understand the difference between morality and law. They think all morals should be laws to make everyone behave good.

They are also too stupid to understand the concept of not mandating good behavior, because to do so takes away the free agency that makes it a choice and thus makes the person making the good choice virtuous.

[–] • 0 pt

Close, but a Christian doesn't judge. That's up to the big guy upstairs.

[–] • 3 pts

You're misreading the verse. It's referring to double-standards. i.e. don't judge someone by a standard you're unwilling to be judged by.

[–] • 3 pts

This^

We are called to have discernment in all things, which is judging.

Saying/noticing that someone is doing wrong is certainly in the purview of a Christian.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

a Christian doesn't judge

Says who? Jesus doesn't forbid it. In fact, he instructs us to teach all that he commanded. Is it "judgy" of us to proclaim what kingdom living is like?

Also, believers are certainly to judge (not condemn) each other to some extent. Peter wrote that. I'll let you look it up.

[–] • 1 pt

Yes, crazy how so many people stumble over and misinterpret this.

[–] • 1 pt

Yeah the scripture about removing the rafter from your eye before removing the straw from your brother’s eye still has that last part. Just to be able to understand there is a situation in which you may be able to help you have to “judge” that to be the case.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

but a Christian doesn't judge

What do you mean by judge? You see a murder happening right in front of you, you aren't going to judge a bit, like at least for your own sake? You aren't going to think something like "this is bad, this is a capital sin, I probably should be careful about that guy staring at me now..."? You are just going to remain neutral and think "this is neither good or evil, because I don't judge" and remain idle?

Of course you're going to judge

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You're free to do what you want.

But remember there are consequences to your actions.

Unless your not white. Then excuses are made.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I don't care if anyone thinks this is an unpopular opinion. There's no way out of the mess our society is in unless they have the fear of death. No other way out. It will only continue to decline until heads start rolling.