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I look around and most churches are some variation of globo homo, give us your money, fuck you over at every turn, guilt trip you to stay. I have lost so much fucking money from church members pretending to be my friend, trying to either steal from me, or lure me into bullshit ideas. And yet I still believe God is real, and that we will get out of our mess. But it just seems like everywhere I look, these churches are just using God as a false pretense to push their own dogma.

A good example, a preacher interpreting the Bible. The thing is the message or sermon is not challenged by anyone. So really it's just human dogma being pushed through the lens of Godly nature. And yet the bible specifically says no to idolatry, so then can we really say the preacher man is not an idol within a church?

I look around and most churches are some variation of globo homo, give us your money, fuck you over at every turn, guilt trip you to stay. I have lost so much fucking money from church members pretending to be my friend, trying to either steal from me, or lure me into bullshit ideas. And yet I still believe God is real, and that we will get out of our mess. But it just seems like everywhere I look, these churches are just using God as a false pretense to push their own dogma. A good example, a preacher interpreting the Bible. The thing is the message or sermon is not challenged by anyone. So really it's just human dogma being pushed through the lens of Godly nature. And yet the bible specifically says no to idolatry, so then can we really say the preacher man is not an idol within a church?

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At the risk of appearing to just drop a low-effort comment, here is a podcast that will hopefully encourage you: https://ericconn.com/podcast/10-reasons-why-men-hate-going-to-church/

There is a bunch of gay, left-drifting crap happening in many "evangelical" churches these days. Jeff Durbin at Apologia Church (AZ) calls them "evan-jellyfish," but I digress.

About your objection though, the biblical model of church leadership is several elders, deacons, and at least one preacher-teacher (obviously I interpret the grammar of Ephesians 4:11 differently than adherents of the "five-fold ministry" movement...).

In Corinthians, Paul says that the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. Things are to be done in order. We are to test the teaching, like the Bereans.

So I reject the idea that "one man just teaching his way" is the model of the New Testament. There is authority, leadership, accountability. Even as a lay person, I question my pastors.

Another point - it might be worth challenging your understanding of an idol. While it is popular to give that label to any obsession, addiction, or "unspiritual" desire, can you back that up with scripture?

Lastly, I'm curious what "human dogma" has been pushed by a preacher whose sermon you attended in person. Maybe it was truly in error? I have had to reject some material that I once held dear because the preacher said blasphemous things, which were never corrected or addressed. It does happen, and yes - there is a tendency to focus the entire ministry around a man (or sometimes woman). The King's Hall podcast about "big, fast, and famous" (IIRC) might be of interest.