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Canadian doctor who's euthanized 400 proudly shares how she helped kill man that another medic deemed incapable of choosing assisted suicide - as obstetrician reveals she's helped 300 to die in controversial program

Dying With Dignity Canada associates Ellen Wiebe and Stefanie Green have reportedly euthanized more than 700 people between them

touted that she once helped a patient die after he was initially rejected because he lacked the ability to make his own health care decisions

, an obstetrician, describes her work as making 'deliveries' while insisting that people aren't getting Medical Assistance In Dying due to poverty

One woman said the mental anguish from loneliness and poverty outweighed her physical pain from chronic leukemia in her decision to want to die

While another man is just one signature away from being approved despite listing a fear of homelessness as his key reason for wanting to die

Archived link: https://archive.is/KOq8X

> Canadian doctor who's euthanized 400 proudly shares how she helped kill man that another medic deemed incapable of choosing assisted suicide - as obstetrician reveals she's helped 300 to die in controversial program > Dying With Dignity Canada associates Ellen Wiebe and Stefanie Green have reportedly euthanized more than 700 people between them > [Wiebe](#blue) touted that she once helped a patient die after he was initially rejected because he lacked the ability to make his own health care decisions > [Green](#blue), an obstetrician, describes her work as making 'deliveries' while insisting that people aren't getting Medical Assistance In Dying due to poverty > One woman said the mental anguish from loneliness and poverty outweighed her physical pain from chronic leukemia in her decision to want to die > While another man is just one signature away from being approved despite listing a fear of homelessness as his key reason for wanting to die Archived link: https://archive.is/KOq8X

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It isn't about killing yourself just before dying Its about opting out when quality of life drops.

A very good friends parent recently was allowed to do this. The individual in question had alzheimers diagnosis and slowly began deteriorating. There was a mental competency check, and fortunately alzheimers is on the list of reasons the government will acceptfor this program.

Instead of a long slow decline into mental decay, inflicting suffering on himself, and everyone else, the individual chose their own time, consulting with a doctor to make the best guesses as to where that sweet spot would be. The only way it could have been worse is being treated like cattle l and kept alive involuntarily.

The states involvement should be limited to proving my determination to die, and attempting to uncover coercion. But my right to choose is more important than the potential for abuse. if the state thinks it has the right to enforce life upon the suffering who don't want it... well that sounds a lot like vaccine mandates to me.

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Explained that way, it makes more sense.

Unfortunately you'll have to make these terms clear before you're unable to (such as an unexpected accident that leaves you in a coma or unable to clearly communicate).

It's a hard choice to make when you are still conscious and healthy.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Yes. It does need to be done pro actively, and its not a binary, quick, one and done sorta thing. You can also do some sort of "death power of attorney" but it doesn't just mean you get to kill the named person. It means that if they get incapacitated, and not able to advocate for themselves, you get to. Advicate on their behalf i mean

I'm glad the right exists, but its also put me in the position of being that named person for someone I care about. Am I truly strong enough to help a loved one die, in keeping with repeatedly stated wishes on the subject? I hope so, but I hope way more that I'm never put in that awfull position.

I'm very much against the state euthanizing, and I don't doubt a few dumbass bureaucrats, or even truly horrible people did encourage suicide as a solution for poverty. Unfortunately, all the posts I've seen on poal regarding the matter seem biased to the point of dishonesty. While I don't doubt corruption, government incompetence, and the human capacity for evil , my boots on the ground version of things is a little different, and I wanted to share it.

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And I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts on that topic.