And what dies any of that have to do with meetups? I think the benefit of building a network is more important than the risk of getting sued or arrested. Even we were all sued to oblivion we'd still have made connections to others of a like mind, that is a source of power that more than overshadows the drawbacks of a situation like that. What we ate doing right now doesn't work. Without real life organization, we will continue to accomplish nothing. Another thing: there is a virtue in hitting rock bottom. Neitzsche made some very good points with regard to how to live a bold and meaningful life I'm going to have another meetup at Mother location next Saturday, try showing up to this one.