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Even if they weren't centrally controlled they'd still be shit. They can't tow for shit and they lose massive efficiency in the cold.

I dunno about anyone else but the idea of losing battery in 0 degree weather and having to get towed to go sit at a dark gas station for an hour-plus is not the idea of convenience to me. And EVs are only useful if they're MORE convenient than combustion engines.

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i totally agree. my point is that is where they want the argument focused, just on ICE v. EV and the pros and cons. It's blatantly obvious to anyone without their head way up their ass that EVs are ok for basic commuting in a city or suburban setting in relatively normal weather conditions, but outside of that they're fucking retarded.

even a simple concept like the mining for all the materials. that is done through heavy diesel powered equipment, and it if were somehow to switch to battery powered heavy equipment the results would very predictably be a fucking joke.

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Haha yeah no one ever talks about the mining. I got into (small scale) gold prospecting years back and started watching those Gold Rush shows and all that, it's pretty similar to get all the bullshit needed for lithium ion batteries and all the other components. Shitlibs always talk about "oh but it's GREEN". Yeah what about the fuckin diesel trucks and mining equipment that's burning thousands of gallons of diesel a day to make one car battery, which lasts at best 10 years.

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going off of your point on the MINING aspect alone. much of it is performed in countries with substandard safety and worker rights and also child labor is used. the runoff from much of the mining pollutes surrounding wildlife areas, watersheds, streams, rivers, oceans, etc.. side note, I live in coal region and many of our streams are still orange from all the sulfur. all of these being things lefties retards love to pretend don't exist. we didn't even get into the limited available quantities of many rare earth materials that probably couldn't support all the expected growth of EV anyway, which is reason enough at face value not to pursue this route.

the disposale of the batteries is another environmental nightmare Green fags pretend doesn't exist. the ICE cars are more recyclable than EVs overall.

then the power generation. i know lefty fag retards think electricity comes out of the wall, but you'd just be substituting the fossil fuels burned in your ICE for more fossil fuels burnt as power generation stations. right there the entire concept of "being green" is a fucking moronic, zero awareness farce so it's a perfect match for a no critical thinking skills, emotionally driven pussy leftist shithead. again, a foreign concept to any shit-for-brains liberal moron who's too busy filming his wife getting fucked by their boyfriend to stop and think about how fucking dumb the idea is.

but like we're saying, it's not "just a dumb idea" it's a big stepping stone to forever loss of freedom which is the bigger overall move being made here.