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Anti-VAX people should be taking a different approach here. They should stop being defensive and try to get the government to prove it’s actually worthwhile to even take the damn vaccine.

This is how stupid they are, they allow the government to start from the default position that “everyone understands vaccines are good.” They’ve been playing defense ever since and doing a terrible job of it because they’re low IQ retards, even though I think they’re right on this particular vaccine. The evidence is overwhelming.

We haven’t seen a convincing case yet from the government that taking the vaccine benefits people in general population. What are the numbers? Where are the trials where are the studies that show that there’s a benefit to taking the vaccine for the general population?

Where is the decrease in hospitalizations? Where is the decrease in mortality rates? In what populations? How does it break down regionally? What’s the difference in the areas where vaccine usage is high and low? What about masks? Show me data that shows the unmasked would benefit, or should they continue to wear masks after they get a vaccine or should they have not been wearing masks in first place? We want to see the data.

I’ve seen the anti-VAX people butcher paper after paper, misunderstand and misinterpret that data pile after data pile, they cannot do math, they don’t understand how reporting systems work, they don’t know how spike proteins work, they spend so much time embarrassing themselves and humiliating everyone else who doesn’t want to take this vaccine with their stupidity, maybe they should stop playing into government hands and put THEM on the defensive.

Make the government prove it. Make them prove that there’s a benefit to the general population to take these vaccines in large numbers. Prove it. Where is the decrease in serious cases? Where is the decrease in incidence?

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Well said.

I say "The vaccine does not stop transmission of the disease nor does it stop me passing it on to others, all it does is mask the symptoms of said disease making it less likely for me to know I'm infected. Why should I take this shit?"

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Well said. Its obvious to me that the virus has evolved to become vaccine resistant. So how’s it beneficial to have more covid “naive “ people vaxxed when a natural exposure is far more likely to result in immunity? Why is no one pointing out that they have created these variants with the vax and the more people they vax the more the virus will become resistant. It works just like antibiotics and resistant bacteria.

If the numbers they quote are truly covid patients and not people with some sort of vaccine syndrome then we are seeing a totally new profile for covid— a much younger one. Sounds like MOST of the ICU cases are people under 50. That is shocking. If true we may be seeing an ADE phenomenon in young people. They are not characterizing the presentation of these young severe covid patients. There are tell tale signs of ADE. Teenagers and 20 somethings in ICU?!!! The vaccine has caused that shift—- you can bet.

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I never even thought of this being an ADE event, but it sure as fuck makes sense.

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I predicted 6 mos ago that ADE would occur and that when it did they would blame it on “antivaxxers”. Its like Im psychic or something.

Actually we really dont know if it is ADE but I think if the covid profile changes , like new symptoms or new demographics, I think ADE is really likely. People are so fucking ignorant I can’t stand it!

We need to see case studies of younger breakthrough victims, autopsies. A 35 year old woman died they said. We need to crack her open. You know, respectfully. Lol

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even though I think they’re right on this particular vaccine

But you don't think the vaccine manufacturers have an ulterior motive for recommending that newborns get vaccines and then get 61 vaccines before age 7?