Anti-VAX people should be taking a different approach here. They should stop being defensive and try to get the government to prove it’s actually worthwhile to even take the damn vaccine.
This is how stupid they are, they allow the government to start from the default position that “everyone understands vaccines are good.” They’ve been playing defense ever since and doing a terrible job of it because they’re low IQ retards, even though I think they’re right on this particular vaccine. The evidence is overwhelming.
We haven’t seen a convincing case yet from the government that taking the vaccine benefits people in general population. What are the numbers? Where are the trials where are the studies that show that there’s a benefit to taking the vaccine for the general population?
Where is the decrease in hospitalizations? Where is the decrease in mortality rates? In what populations? How does it break down regionally? What’s the difference in the areas where vaccine usage is high and low? What about masks? Show me data that shows the unmasked would benefit, or should they continue to wear masks after they get a vaccine or should they have not been wearing masks in first place? We want to see the data.
I’ve seen the anti-VAX people butcher paper after paper, misunderstand and misinterpret that data pile after data pile, they cannot do math, they don’t understand how reporting systems work, they don’t know how spike proteins work, they spend so much time embarrassing themselves and humiliating everyone else who doesn’t want to take this vaccine with their stupidity, maybe they should stop playing into government hands and put THEM on the defensive.
Make the government prove it. Make them prove that there’s a benefit to the general population to take these vaccines in large numbers. Prove it. Where is the decrease in serious cases? Where is the decrease in incidence?
Well sure there is. People that aren’t getting the vaccine are probably less likely to go to the hospital because they’re not pussies.
Vaccinated people, the second they feel a symptom, probably start crying.
But I get your overall point that it is extremely suspicious. 141 is a relatively small sample size but it’s not meaningless, either. Very very suspicious. And I’m not Mr. anti-VAX, I don’t like this one and wouldn’t get it in 1 million years, but I’m not somebody who is just going to automatically take the same position anti vax folks typically take. Especially not after seeing them misinterpret data repeatedly, get their numbers wrong, hype up “discoveries” that turn out to go nowhere, wring their hands over mortality rates that are lower than the general population because they can’t do math, etc. But there’s absolutely no need for them to lie and exaggerate at all, there are plenty of warning signs about this vaccine.
This is why I think some of these “look how many people have died!!!” posts are from people who are purposely trying to discredit the anti-VAX community. Because it really does discredit them. It’s very effective at discrediting anti-VAXxers.
Meanwhile look at all of the natural evidence around us. Look at the people pushing the vaccine changing their story every five minutes, changing the benefits of taking the vaccine every time they feel compelled to do so to make a new argument, etc.
The lies aren’t necessary. There’s plenty of real stuff out there.
People who were spiking the football about “high” miscarriage rates - that turned out to be lower than the general population - are doing more harm than good. Really really makes anti-vax people look fucking retarded.
But look, look at the rate of injury. Look at the real mortality rate, it’s roughly the same as the general population, but the injury rate is much much higher. Much higher. There’s no need to risk heart attacks and losing limbs, etc. when you have a 99.97% chance of surviving the fucking virus anyway. It’s ludicrous and ridiculous. Why would anyone take this?
The people who don’t understand how VAERS and other reporting systems work populate this forum and they are embarrassing themselves. They really don’t understand how the reporting system works, why some are removed, etc. and it’s extremely embarrassing. But there’s one thing that’s undeniable, there’s a very high injury rate. That’s not even deniable.
Once you look into it some of those “injuries” are and realize they aren’t stubbed toes and hang nails, it’s all the evidence you need not to take this thing.
What anti-VAX activists should be focusing on is the rate at which vaccines “help” people. What are they? What is the decrease in incidence of COVID-19 among the vaccinated? What is the decrease in serious cases, decreasing case numbers, what is the information - why won’t they share it? Is there a decrease in mortality rate among the jabbed at all? Is that even a question the government wants to answer? That’s where they should be searching.
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