>Then you make a list of cringe atheist assumptions fit for nothing more than debunking santa. Do you really think hundreds of years of white european philosophy can be thrown aside by going "HURRRRR HOW CAN GOD BE REAL IF I CANT TOUCH HIM ? HUH? CHECKMATE"?. I think you are a leftist shill, you talk like leftists do and you bear the same attitude, no substance, only being obnoxious and smug, while refusing to actually engage with your opponent, you instead mock and belittle them. this is how someone with soylent blood acts towards dissenters. This is next to the guy who actually answers my questions is someone who makes Christianity look good, he treats me with the respect I've shown to him, tries to address my queries, and tells a good story that actually sounds like something I could entertain as a possibility, I'm really buying the whole "shem, japeth, ham" idea ass a plausible history of mankind. You on the other hand, sound just like the other atheists who've shown up on here at around the same (recent) time, invested in getting atheists and Christians to hate each other on this platform by agitating each against the other, and generally being the asshole you are being right now. >The brightest minds in the world, the whites that were wise to the tricks of kikes, were all christian, for a thousand years. People who lived good lives, with large families, freedom and land. You think your enslaved, ignorant ass can dismiss their wisdom without even making the slightest effort to read their writings or listen to their teachings? Of course, you tell outright fucking lies, the pagans were woke to the jews before they built great civilization and became comfortable, leading to a decline in their vigilance and eventually succumbing to subversion, which triggered their decline. Christians displayed the same pattern, with their leaders being corrupted into protecting the jews and providing them with special powers over the government and people, some of the worst examples of jewish corruption occurred in Christian nations: Europe: - The establishment of the jewish quarters - The passing of special protections and privileges for jews - The persecution of anti-jew activity in the middle ages - The letting in of the ottomans into Southern Europe - 400 years of ottoman occupation left alone by the powers of church and state despite the increasing cries for reclamation coming from the people (which was ultimately what led to the first crusade, it was the people, not the church, that was behind your "deus vult" memes) - The wars between European nations (over the Christian religion, no less) - The assumption of the "White Man's Burden" during colonialism (where they acted to uplift the negro to the White Man's level of civilization instead of just conquering them properly). America: - The acceptance of Jews into the new world colonies upon achieving independence. - The acceptance of niggers into the colonies (as indentured servants, who were up to that point exclusively White) - The passing of slavery in the United States (by a case brought forth to the supreme courts by a negro who wished to own another negro as his slave, who was represented by a kike lawyer). - The denial of the right of states to secede from the union, even though such a power was guaranteed to them by the foundational documents of the United States. - The abolition of slavery, on the false promise of the removal of all blacks from US soil. - The refusal to follow through on the promise of the eviction of blacks from the US upon the reception of the news of the failure of Liberian colonies. - The Great Depression, and the answer of the (((New Deal))), which saw the firm integration of jewish corruption into american systems, especially through the creation of a welfare state that the kikes had used for social engineering ever since. - The implementation of segregation, which was bad, and the solution of integration, which was worse, instead of separation, which was the only correct path to take if blacks were to remain in the Americas. - The 1965 Hart-Cellar immigration equality act, and the establishment of the (((melting pot))). - The Federal Reserve, and all the entanglements America had with the (((international banking cartel))) (eg. the World Bank and International Monetary Fund) ever since. - American Israeli relations being officially established and the creation of a Zionist Occupied Government in America, leading to the poisonous influence of groups like AIPAC being deeply entrenched into American politics. World: - The first and second wars, which pitted Whites against themselves to the joy of the international jewry. - The establishment of the League of Nations, and the United Nations, and the European Union, and the North American Trade Organization. - The plans of the (((World Economic Forum))) such as the Great Reset and New World Order, had been planned in a very Christian Western first world. All of the biggest kikery of white civilizations occurred in heavily Christian nations, all of them where implemented by leaders who were known to be strongly Christian, often Christianity was used in the arguments that persuaded people to support or tolerate these actions, and the overwhelming support for these things came from Christians who thought they were doing God's work. Most of the people who support the jew agenda today are Christians, remember your priors, while they are the most visible and outspoken members the left is not mostly college students, there are simply not enough, also most conservatives are Christians and very much supportive of the jewish agenda as well, just with a few differences that are frankly irrelevant. The work to fuck us over was largely done by the hands of those who prayed to Jesus as their lord and savior, the marxists are merely here to add the finishing touches, as the Christians had lost their utility. You could say they were fooled or deluded, you could say that their leaders were jewish puppets who never believed in God, and I agree, this is all likely true in most cases, but what does that say about your faith? when the majority of your fellows cannot tell the work of the devil from the work of the lord? Most of the Christians are still fooled today. I'd say it puts you on par with atheists, because we are experiencing the same thing, most of us are deluded into accepting ideas derived from pseudoscientific dogma as if they were ideas derived from scientific critical thought, I think if you look across the aisle, you'd find that you and they have a lot in common. And when most of the Christians wake up, so too will most of the atheists. We are the same. >"HURR GOD MADE EVIL? ALSO GOOD? LOL CHECKMATE" If you got someone who doesn't want certain things to happen, and has the power to stop them, and knows all about them, you got some explaining to do as to why he doesn't just stop these things. Likewise, if someone wants something to happen, and he has the power to make it happen, and he knows all about how to bring this about, you got some explaining to do as to why he doesn't just make it occur. For you, the reasons may be obvious, or this might just be a matter you'd prefer not to think about, but I'm the type to notice inconsistencies like these and not know how they can be resolved without just rejecting the central premise.