Listing off inane arguments we never make in order to discredit us by pointing out the stupidity of your own creations is not a valid method of countering our actual questions. William Lane Craig and Frank Turek use logical fallacies almost exclusively as their argumentative style, the reason they are hard to respond to in a debate is that they debate in bad faith, and the opposing side is going to be taking more time out to educate the audience on logical fallacies rather than making their own counter-case. As both sides are allotted the same time, and it takes less time to bullshit your audience than to explain to an audience how they are being fooled and misled by faulty arguments, this is the path to victory for apologists like these, by which I mean those who only care about winning the debate rather than finding any sort of truth through presenting ideas and subjecting them to criticism. They are politicians who employ all the argumentative tactics of a leftist, and anyone else who is arguing for some claim that they know does not have a good case that is able to be made for them. When you point out known discredited bullshit merchants as examples of good Christian argumentors, you make me doubt that you are actually a genuine Christian, and instead just some forum troll trying to rouse conflict between the atheists and Christians on this site. It's clear that your issue is not with atheism, but with the white right and pro-white politics, you were sent here to disrupt us and initiate god wars to keep us from working together effectively towards common agreed-upon goals of securing a the survival of white people and a future for white children. Let's cut the bullshit, why are you doing this? it's it just about money, or are you doing this out of some personally held beliefs? Why do you think it's right to hate us? all we want is for our people to survive and to be able to govern themselves, what is wrong with that? All we want to be able to have someplace where we are left alone, if you don't like us, then let us claim some land where we can all fuck off to, and then we will have left you to yourselves in your countries, while we will just focus on ourselves on our own. Literally all we want is a place for ourselves, we don't want to hurt anyone, we just want to leave you guys alone, and see you leave us alone, why is that such a bad thing?