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Is it some cultural heritage, not being an Oriental?

Is it some cultural heritage, not being an Oriental?
[–] 4 pts 10d

Some people might describe meditation as somehow stopping all thoughts and silencing your mind. Some may be able to do that after years of practice, but I don’t think it’s important.

What I do is sit still and allow myself to be passively aware of everything around me and in my mind. I don’t actively engage in any thoughts and I experience them arising on their own—as though they operate without me. I see that my thoughts are like the wind blowing on my face. Both of these things happen entirely on their own, without me.

When meditating I’ll frequently become distracted by my thoughts and engage with them. That’s fine. I go back to passively experiencing them the same way I experience the subtle sounds around me.

That’s it. That’s all there is to it if you’re looking for any therapeutic benefit. Becoming “present” like that on a regular basis will will leave you calmer, better able to focus, and better able to control—or separate yourself from—your emotions.

Arnold Schwarzenegger did this for a while in the early 80’s when he had a lot going on in his life and he was having trouble focusing. He learned how to become present and focus on the current moment whenever he needed to and he no longer needed to meditate regularly.

The deeper lesson that our Aryan ancestor Buddha and others discovered is that you start to see that many of the things you thought were part of yourself—like your thoughts—are not. You eventually see that even the idea of your self is only a mental concept—an illusion—and that you may not even exist. Then you start understanding a lot of the things Jesus said and you can no longer relate to most people and life seems both wonderful and pointless at the same time.

Don’t worry about all of that for now though. Just sit still and listen to everything around you, including your own thoughts.

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[–] 1 pt 10d

The way I understand the practice is to start off thinking. It really helps to be outside and find a beautiful scene to look at while being physically relaxed. My favorite type of spot is a bench near a stream.

Eventually the thoughts trail off, some into conclusion, some not, and I am thoughtless, watching the leaves blow in the wind and the birds flirting about. 5 minutes is often enough, dping this for hours is probably not the best use of time.

It's a calming escape from the greater situations we deal with. Calling it 'meditation' is just a language trick, you may as well call it relaxing.

[–] 0 pt 9d

Well, damn. I was hoping there was more to it than that. I've meditated a lot, and how you describe it is spot on with my experiences.

[–] 3 pts 10d

Don't try to clear your mind of everything. That's a losing battle. Instead, try to focus your mind on just one thing. For example, I have a white noise / fan noise machine that I will focus as much attention on as I can while it hums away.

[–] 3 pts 10d

I cannot meditate either because my mind is not capable of going into a suspended mode of operation. I am too connected to everything around me to just simply close down and shut off all outside stimulus. I exist in the natural world therefore I am in a connected state 24x7. My mind can find peace in its own way by simply ignoring my body, a sort of transcendent state if it requires a label. I am my mind first and my body second so perhaps that is like meditation but on a more discreet level.

I've never believed in that mystical eastern stuff because I am already connected to nature and I don't see how doing some zen bullshit makes that any different. I've always considered meditation as some sort of BS that low-IQ people do to convince themselves they are more capable in the mind than they really are. I can't do it because it's not real.

[–] 4 pts 10d

^ This exactly. I’ve known spiritual people all my life and they always came out to be the dumbest ones, using some fairy tales magic talk to explain things that are easily explained with empirical evidences.

They are like low-IQ people trying to pretend they are autistic.

No wonder most of that bullshit (meditation, yoga…) comes from that shithole called India.

[–] 1 pt 10d

Meditation came from that region, but not from shitskins. It came from our Aryan ancestors. The earliest depictions of Buddha show him with red hair and a curly red beard.

[–] 0 pt 10d

Meditation is practiced by low-IQ anyway, no matter who came up with it. Its purpose is obvious enough.

[–] 1 pt 10d

100%

People that can meditate are most likely the ones that don't have an internal monologue at all. I always have one main thing on my mind and a few other 'background processes'. Why would I even want to shut it out? I need to think about those things ffs.

[–] 3 pts 10d

So let me get this straight:

You have a voice talking in your head at all times? What exactly does it tell you to do?

[–] 2 pts 10d

All your base are belong to us

on a loop

[–] 1 pt 10d

Don't you have the same? It's internal monologue, not dialog.

[–] 2 pts 10d

100%

People that can meditate are most likely the ones that don't have an internal monologue at all. I always have one main thing on my mind and a few other 'background processes'. Why would I even want to shut it out? I need to think about those things ffs.

Yes the background processes are essential to my life. Those processes are great for problem solving. They automatically set themselves and report back to me when they have milestone information or a solution ready to go. I cannot imagine life without background processes and I absolutely cannot imagine not having an internal monologue. Those without either are truly NPCs and don't really matter in the world as they contribute nothing.

[–] 0 pt 10d

Ya and sometime ctrl alt del wont end a process or two

[–] 3 pts 10d

Impossible. We're not made to have a mind that is completely empty. It's ingrained in our genetics to be aware of our surroundings. You can sensory deprive yourself and in a way that's clearing your mind.

[–] 3 pts 10d

Focus your mind on your breathing. Think about how you are breathing in and out.

[–] 3 pts 10d

Too many thoughts multi-tasking that you can't shut down all your neurons.

[–] 1 pt 10d

I used to think I couldn't meditate, or that meditation was just an advanced form of sitting still.

Than I used the tapes.

[–] 1 pt 10d

I can't stop and meditate on nothing, but I do find I am able to zen while doing certain tasks or listening to certain music. Maybe your ability to zen is linked to an outlet to help you unwind?

[–] 1 pt 10d

It's because you are not eating enough rice.

[–] 1 pt 7d

I think it is really a matter of you being retarded.

[–] 1 pt 10d

Just keep focusing on one thing

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