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How many people does it take to keep a secret? Yeah it was just the flu, but was it even that?

How many people does it take to keep a secret? Yeah it was just the flu, but was it even that?

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[–] 16 pts (edited )

Yes, it existed and was engineered in a lab. The evidence of engineering is the furin cleavage site of SARS-CoV-2.

Don't expect me to argue with a bunch of terrain theory morons about it though.

If you have to ask that, then you need to learn about biology and chemistry until you can figure out the answer for yourself.

[–] 5 pts

To add to this and elaborate for OP:

1) The PCR tests widely used to test for an active covid infection were explicitly not designed for that use and had an enormous false positive rate. This lead to grossly inflated covid diagnoses.

2) Many governments provided large financial incentives for treating patients who "had" covid or who died "from covid'. E.g. viral pneumonia and covid had some symptoms overlap, so hospitals would diagnose both as "covid" to collect more money from Medicare and similar programs.

3) Government disease tracking agencies like the CDC, WHO, etc conspired to record almost all cases of influenza as covid. That's why you see flu "cases" for a year or so decrease by a ridiculous amount and covid increase by the same amount. There was some covid going around, but almost all cases of flu were mislabeled as covid to spread hysteria and justify more government spending.

4) Covid didnt directly kill you. The body's excessive immune response in the form of a cytokine storm would kill you if your immune system was already compromised (e.g. if you were vitamin D deficient) or by clogging your lungs with fluid. The problem is, compromised lung capacity is not something you can do anything about in an emergency. If you were healthy, covid's temporary oxygen impact wasnt much worse than visiting a higher elevation for a few weeks. If you were already a hamplanet or lifelong smoker, you were staring death in the face because you cant undo that damage overnight. Doctors had financial incentives to declare rona the cause of death as well as social incentives to tell the families that their loved one died from rona rather than died from being morbidly obese while being sick with the flu/rona/viral pneumonia.

5) A shit ton of people died from retards demanding doctors "do something" and spineless doctors kowtowing and putting people on ventilators. Ventilators compress the lungs. If your diaphragm isnt working, ventilators are great. If your diaphragm is fine and your lungs are full of fluid, you're trying to compress fluid. That effectively turns your lungs into a hydraulic press and crushes them. Doctors pervasively did this, so they'd much rather blame covid for killing patients rather than covid making the patient sick and the doctor's malpractice killing the patient.

6) Aside from the furin cleavage sites someone else mentioned, Covid's symptoms are pretty unusual for a corona virus. It'd cause a cytokine storm which would exhaust you and fill your lungs with phlegm. If you're healthy, that was VERY distinct because other common Western diseases dont simultaneously make you feel like you just went running 5000' higher in elevation while also wanting to sleep 16 hours per day. The problem is those are only distinct for healthy people. If you're already a fatass who gets winded walking down a flight of stairs, everything from the common cold to the flu gives you those symptoms because just being alive at 350 lbs is that way. Which lead to covid being overdiagnosed.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

If you have to ask that, then you need to learn about biology and chemistry until you can figure out the answer for yourself.

MUST LEARN FROM APPROVED SOURCE BEFORE CAN UNDERSTAND

[–] 4 pts

I'm not a programmer and don't understand how hardware and software work, therefore computers are evil boxes with magic spirits inside.

There are a lot of things in the world you can't have an educated opinion about without understanding them first.

Virology is definitely one of those things.

The good news is, if you aren't too lazy you can learn.

Don't be a stupid fucking Qtard nigger.

[–] 3 pts

People with a genuine background in science know how worthless the majority of research is. Virology being on the weaker end of the spectrum since the subject matter is so difficult to study. As for "terrain theory", the sort of cretin who denies the role of all the various metabolic systems in regulating health is the same sort of cretin who spent the last 3 years thinking sickness is completely idiopathic and that immune systems do not exist. Aka thousands of "scientists".

Virology is definitely one of those things.

Ahh, you mean that field based on a theory that has never been proven?

Show me a study which validates the causal relationship between a microbe and a disease using Koch's postulates. Then we can talk.

[–] 1 pt

They would never release the genome of a real bioweapon.

Checkmate.

[–] 0 pt

I thought it was "terrane"

[–] 0 pt

IMO the reason for the initial panic and overblown government response was that they all knew it was engineered in a lab. They didn't want the public to know that because then they'd get all the blame, revolts, etc.

Turns out it wasn't the super lethal bioweapon they feared, but after stoking the flames and inciting panic that much, they couldn't walk back their claims without looking foolish and hysterical. They kept pushing exaggerated dangers for years to save face.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

I'm with you until this part:

Turns out it wasn't the super lethal bioweapon they feared, but after stoking the flames and inciting panic that much, they couldn't walk back their claims without looking foolish and hysterical. They kept pushing exaggerated dangers for years to save face.

They deliberately used PCR tests dialed up to 40 cycles so everyone would be "infected". They ran scare stories for years. This was because they wanted lockdowns and the ability to inject as many people as possible. Notice they didn't change the "vaccines" to match the current strains and used the original bioweapon strain for 2-3 years? That wasn't their ego. It was malevolence.

If it wasn't deliberate, they could have just told the truth, that the virus became far less deadly as it mutated (which is what viruses do, they want the host to survive so he can infect more people, not kill the host immediately). The people who got sick in early 2020, a lot of them died or got severely ill. Three years later it's weaker than the flu.

[–] 6 pts

From everything I've read, I believe that the thing that was given that name did/does exist, but it was not something new that deserved a new name - it was just a slightly-modified strain of the standard "flu" virus (also created by kikes).

It was/is merely the flu, but a version that had been slightly modified so that it would also induce a very minor additional effect/symptom of potentially burning out the olfactory nerves of one who is infected. This way it had some unusual symptom that could be pointed at so jew media could say "See! It's not just the flu!"

Everything was calculated and orchestrated - it was all a play acted out on the world stage.

It didn't 'escape', but was not merely 'released' either. It was more insidious.

I believe it was intentionally inserted into the 'flu vaccine' that was administered around the world for some time prior to December 2019. This would have had the effect of introducing it into different populations. It would have been waved away as just being the flu by those who got it from the flu injections (which it was just the flu), but a strange flu that also killed the sense of smell for some.

Again, everything was calculated and orchestrated, including the fear-porn videos pushed by jew media when they were all given their instructions to start pushing their narrative and getting people to be afraid.

Enough people got the slightly-modified strain with the added symptom that killed their sense of smell forever afterward, so when the jew media began stating the symptoms were "flu-like" but that it could also kill your sense of smell, enough people who were infected with the modified flu who did have that symptom began saying "I had that! It's real and it knocked me on my ass for a few days and I still can't smell or taste anything like normal."

People sharing firsthand accounts of being ill and saying "I must have had COVID" added credibility to the narrative pushed by jew media that it was real.

[–] 1 pt

Damn, so my loss of smell is permanent? This sucks!

The propaganda machine and social engineering of it all is mind blowing! The stickers on the floors in stores, the commercials, the public service announcements. The simultaneous layoffs. Travel shutdown around the world. It's like taking up from a nightmare when I think back.

California hasn't recovered. We still have parking lot "patio" restaurants, people still wearing masks and gloves in LA!! People wouldn't believe what California looked like!

[–] 0 pt

Permanent only if you follow instructions from "doctors" for methods of treating it, if they offer any at all. Most will just throw some pharmaceuticals at you that will not help, or even make it worse.

However, there are things you can do to heal and restore your sense of smell (and taste) somewhat back to normal over time. You essentially need to heal the nerve endings/epithelium and retrain your sense of smell with countering scents juxtaposed with tasting specific foods and spices. Some studies are showing that a routine of intranasal vitamin A drops could help with the healing. Might be worth it for you to look into that.

I know several who are still uninjected and who had gotten this modified flu early on (likely firsthand from 'seasonal flu vaccine' administering and not via proximity to someone with it) and who had lost their sense of smell from it. Years later now and both still are uninjected, but both still have either no smell or only a slight sense of smell. This total or near total lack of smell also causes no or only a slight sense of taste. Things that were once tasty to them have been revolting in flavor. One who doesn't smoke even noted that they regularly get a strong whiff of cigarette smoke even in their own smoke-free home due to the misfiring of the damaged nerves.

Sadly, no information I have that I could share with them on this or any other topic is of any value to them and dismissed outright. That's family for you. Their loss.

[–] 1 pt

Yep their loss! My family is similar. I will research this. I heard NAC was helpful, and did that but fell off the wagon. I also have the misfiring smoke scent and anything sympathetically flavored is terrible. My sense of smell was incredible. Silly, but I never researched it deep enough to define the root cause as nerve damage. Nerves heal, slowly. Now I know where to trace. There are nerve tonics I can look in to. Thank you!

[–] 1 pt

I tend to agree with your line of thinking.

[–] 0 pt (edited )

Yep, thats my take as well. Big pharma simply mapped out the entire genome of a (pre-identified) Corona Family virus. In conjunction with the absurdly high-cycled RT-PCR diagnostic test and MSM helping to propagate a non-existent climate of fear and sudden death Whether it was GOF in a bio-lab, is an aside or even a feature for it to be purposely used in a pre-meditated deliberated plan to 'escape' existing multi-year Clinical safety procedures, protocols and policy for the public introduction (and mass marketing to) of an entirely Novel mRNA Gene-based therapy for something the overwhelming majority can just isolate at home with and recover from. The obese, already immuno-compromised, elderly, frail, prone to sickness, diabetic etc are always 'at risk' from any illness, seasonal cold, flu.

[–] 4 pts

no.

[–] 6 pts

..its funny, not one person died from the common cold for 2 whole years and then "POOF!", it just reappeared in 2022. Probably just a cohencidence.

[–] 5 pts

The flu completely disappeared too

[–] 3 pts

Sure, according to the data. You do know that the flu and common cold are all in the viral family corona, and everything from domestic violence to gun shot wounds got jumped in there as well.

[–] 3 pts

I've had worse. Lost 10 pds but that wasn't a bad thing. I've been hearing some horror stories of vaccine reactions from friends who finally are admitting it, that were far worse. I believe the only numbers that changed in comparison to other years, were the murdering of more seniors in care centers than normal to creare fear and the deaths by vaccination that are still unreported. Then there's people like my girlfriend that could be surrounded by people sick with a horrible killer virus ( Like myself and son) and have sniffles for one day. No, none of my family took jabs.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

"Germ Theory"-- unpon which the "COVID virus" is based --has never been clinically proven to exist. Any studies done in the past returned results which in no way supported the hypotheses of Germ Theory, nor the existence of "contagion" within that same context.

My honest opinion is COVID was a massive "hive-mind" operation. Everything that was prescribed by "the authorities" to the public-- in response to the invisible air demon --would inevitably lead to massive cases of "cellular dis-ease". Staying indoors, constantly wearing masks, hand sanitizer 24/7, antibacterial soaps at the ready, vax to the maxx, etc. It all would invariably lead to sickness on a massive scale.

All they had to do was tell the public "grandma will die if you go outside" and most of the public complied.

I think they did it to prove that they could. Next step in their chaotic schemes, no doubt. They will never find peace.

[–] 3 pts

Do you have more information on the invalidity of "germ theory?" I mean something credible and not the ramblings of autists?

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

If you are interested, regarding Germ Theory and its origin, as well as evidence to disprove it, including alternative theories to explain what we see today as "viruses" and "contagion" ( is part of it).

it is a good jumping off point, if nothing else.

Good hunting.

[–] 2 pts

Thank you. I will check the links out.

[–] 1 pt

The second video was very informative. The first video is straight talk that makes you sick, and should show you how diabolical these "scientists" are with their obsession with experiments on people and body fluids. GROSS! This should tell you how impressive the immune system is. Interesting that the doc doing the study in the vid is Dr.McCoy.

I told my fam that getting a jab bypasses the body's defenses.

[–] 1 pt

What's his explanation for communicable diseases? STDs? At the end he kind of hand waves and rattles off some stuff which doesn't really mean anything to me.

[–] 3 pts

Two papers and two medical universities were unable to locate c19 in the wild from any bodies which were "confirmed" to have died from c19. The FDA/CDC, in development of the PCR tests, documented they did not have a c19 sample available and as such used an analog of influenza and corona.

All available information says it never existed in the first place. To date, the only people who ever "studied" it have done so in labs where c19 was provided to them. AFAIK, it has never been detected or observed in the wild.

[–] 2 pts

That's the original strain. Variants have been collected and sequenced from infected people thousands and thousands of times by more labs than you can count. That's how they are able to make the evolutionary charts of the virus showing thousands of variants and perform genomic surveillance.

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global/6m

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/October/SARS-CoV-2-Sequencing-Data-The-Devil-Is-in-the-Gen

https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.08058?context=q-bio

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Please show me where we can confirm they obtained and processed samples found in the wild. To date, everything I've found does not support this claim and appears to be more slight of hand magic with substitutions coming from labs (directly or indirectly) and not samples captured from the wild.

Mutation is common in labs and there are many papers confirming they did mutate it in the lab.

[–] 1 pt

No, I'm not wasting my time with you. I've seen your interactions with stabem.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Viruses aren’t real. Everything you experience as illness is related to either acute toxicity or cumulative exposure and dead cell accumulation.

[–] 2 pts

I think (((they))) have been trying the fear campaigns with the simple flu for a long time. I remember they tried with Sars in the past but the media and social media wasn't at mass psychosis levels and nobody really bought it.

[–] 0 pt

Agree. The fear porn of medicine has been magnified to many diseases to ask your doctor about. Thanks, Marcus Welby.

[–] 2 pts

I think a covid virus was made in the lab. I am not convinced that wild spreading covid was a thing. I think it is possible that lab made covid was introduced opportunistically, but the shots were obviously the weapon used upon us whether we took them or not. This should be recognized for an operation by the propaganda, turning of people against each other, and lack of transparency and candor on the part of the "public health" dickheads.

[–] 2 pts

Only a variation of the flu if anything.

[–] 2 pts

Probably not. Mostly irrelevant. The tests were and are fake for sure.

They probably had something out that did kill some people in a controlled way that also would trigger the test if need be.

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