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Clearly our enemies "fight dirty". They lie, cheat, manipulate, play victim to further their causes and agendas. The trannies whine and cry and lash out in the name of being oppressed, all while being the oppressor (this applies to many other demographics of people). Money changes hands to further certain politcal actions (environmentalist freaks come to mind). All sorts of shady dealings, but they get the job done, don't they?

Christians get a bad rep for being pushovers, and it shows with the seeming snuffing out of the Christian culture and values.

With this in mind, what is said about people that walk with God taking their own shady measures in the name of doing the right thing? Is it considered wrong because of the actions taken to do so, or would the ends justify the means?

Clearly our enemies "fight dirty". They lie, cheat, manipulate, play victim to further their causes and agendas. The trannies whine and cry and lash out in the name of being oppressed, all while being the oppressor (this applies to many other demographics of people). Money changes hands to further certain politcal actions (environmentalist freaks come to mind). All sorts of shady dealings, but they get the job done, don't they? Christians get a bad rep for being pushovers, and it shows with the seeming snuffing out of the Christian culture and values. With this in mind, what is said about people that walk with God taking their own shady measures in the name of doing the right thing? Is it considered wrong because of the actions taken to do so, or would the ends justify the means?

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They want you to invest in their systems to cheat, steal and lie like they do for power. As soon as you start playing their game and fight like they fight then they go all Saul Alinsky on you and accuse you of doing what they do. Instead build our own society in which we are the arbiter of the rules. See what the Jewish, Muslim and Amish societies have done for themselves in building their own communities. Secondly Jesus took dominion of this earth because it was His. We are no different and should assume our place as an extension of the kingdom of God. Christianity over time subverted the Romain empire because what is of the spirit cannot be stopped.