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To maintain the illusion, everyone must participate. Everyone must be complicit in the lie.

"You sent us your money (though in reality, it's all really OUR money, we just decide how much we'll let you keep). You empowered us to carry out man-made horrors beyond imagining. So you must have approved of all that we did with the money. So, you are just as guilty as we are, goy."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFqx2sROwsE

The US dollar is an entirely debt based currency. Every dollar printed is a physical manifestation of that debt. More dollars = more debt. So the entire US economy is based on creating more debt.

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wow thats a terrifying thought. we're paying for this evil shit. we're all responsible...

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Welcome to the desert of the real.

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Control. Yes, it's that simple.

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It's an ounce more complicated. Money has value because of taxes. That's why USD is valuable in the US, and CAD is valuable in Canada.

If you want a productive life, which white people are pretty much required to, then you will need to pay taxes. Even if you were paid in gold you would still owe taxes.. paid in USD. USD is a don't go to jail token. You need a certain amount beyond your expenses to not go to jail if you are going to have any expenses at all (and thus require income).

The taxes give the otherwise worthless unit value. Once it has value they can print any amount of value.

It's easier to think in terms of something you don't work with every day. You don't have an objective view of USD as a physical object because you already inherently think of it as value. If you trained monkeys to give you a token or get hit they will learn to value the token. They'll think of you as as benevolent if you given them tokens, especially if it's a different handler that hands them out. With that you could easily get monkeys to exchange fruit they gather for those tokens and even get them hording them beyond their need to pay the abuser. You are just cattle and USD is the little token they are manipulating you with.

The bigger tax on the monkeys is the exchange of fruit, not giving up tokens that have no value. Every time you give up time for money you are paying your larger share of taxes. I don't want to be anti-work because that isn't my values, but yes, work in the system they've set up does have an element of bullshit because you are further contributing value to an otherwise bullshit token used to manipulate you. You are further giving value to what they can print because at the very least it can be used to redirect your labor to benefit whoever the printed money was given to. Work is important at a fundamental level, but wouldn't you know it they would pervert something good like work so you can't do that good without contributing to their evil.

It may sound crazy but I've intentionally reduced my income over it. I'm more interested in value production than notable income. Work is about value production and you can do it in more way than one. For example for those with kids. If your income is variable like mine and everything you do is for your kids. Will an extra hundred dollars that could be spent on karate practice produce as much value for your kids as spending more time with them? If they are anywhere close to the same ballpark, spend time with your kid. You are producing the same value with less income, and you should be proud of that. You owe nothing to a system that pays you in jew bucks, and dangles a few valueless pieces of paper in front of you and asks for your life. I luckily have a job where I have control over my hours and had income beyond my needs. So I had the capacity to reduce my hours and find other ways to improve my quality of life beyond dollar figures. I'll work like a dog again when someone offers me bitcoin or gold. To me it's a moral issue. I don't let someone boss me around just because they have a stack of jew bucks beyond my need for survival. If you want more than the minimum hours I can offer you, you need something less BS than a stack of paper that's part of a system that tries to genocide me. I don't care if people call me an idiot for choosing to be poor. I know what I'm doing is moral.

John Galt this mother fucker. Pay me in something real or get lost.

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If it means anything ill second this guys answer. Dollars have value because they are essentially a share of the US government. Think of it as a non voting share of a company that never pays dividends (however sometimes there are share dilutions and stock buybacks all without any say from the share holders)

The value comes from the ability of the government to tax its provences generating profits off the revenue. USD grows in strength when gdp rises because that means the oppertunity of more taxable revenues.

So yes a government can print money and generate a profit at the cost of inflating the dollars that are held by the people. But if they get too greedy about it then people wont WANT to hold the dollars any more and they will start trading them away creating a death spiral for the currency. So the government can only inflate as much as people are willing to accept. It is generally accepted that anything over 4% is way to high which is why the Fed is panicking. If people lose faith in the dollar they will start to abandon it. More importantly foreign nations will abandon it which is much more harmful to our economy.

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I understand your thinking. I have a different view while agreeing with many of your points. I explain

I agree spending more time with family is more important than work. My view is we live in corporate feudal America. Being poor is only a western idea where family doesn't matter. You only need enough money to survive. You don't need to keep up with the neighbors. Quality of life is it. Money doesn't mean quality, especially fiat.

It's unfortunate that you and I live in a world governed by criminals and satanic beasts. The United States I was born in no longer exists.

Godspeed.

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Dollars only have value because they've convinced enough people they do. That's it. People don't even know that only banks create us dollars. It's a pyramid scheme with the central bank (federal reserve) at the top.

This is how it used to work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG5c8nhR3LE

This is how it works now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3lP3BhvnSo

Us dollars are jew bucks they use to make peole hire diversity officers and have diversity quotas or they don't get loans. You can't win if you use your enemy's money. Use bitcoin and crypto folks.

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This is how it used to work:

This is how it works now:

"used to" that's still how it works now though. I thought you meant used to in what it was when money still had value pre(((Fed))). "how it works no" are the former in addition sites like patreon, onlyfans, gofundme etc. as well as actually just "printing" (digital creation as the idea of) money.

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Excellent post!

John Galt this mother fucker. Pay me in something real or get lost.

I suspect only a few even get the jest, but I certainly do. Good on you!

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Yeah taxes aren't about getting money for them, it's about taking it from you.

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And now they are moving on to food and energy as a means of control.

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Poisoning us with pharmaceuticals isn't all that's being done.

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Taxes allow much more fine-grained control; they tax some things more and give tax breaks to other things. It's a huge excuse to gather so much information about people, "voluntarily" submitted each year, and all the tentacles it has to monitor people.

With money printing you either run the printer or you don't.

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This is where people get confused about how the Federal Reserve works. The Federal Reserve is NOT the government. The government cannot print money. The government can only BORROW money from the money printers. The money printers are the Federal Reserve. They print monopoly money and then you, the taxpayer, have to pay it back with interest.

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Not sure if OP is trolling or just completely unaware that the value of money is a function of its relative scarcity. Printing more money only accomplishes devaluing the money supply. If you, for example, double the money supply then now each dollar is worth half of what it used to be. The way to increase a country's wealth is by adding goods and services that add value to the economy. For example by buying raw materials and then building something from them that you in turn sell at a profit.

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I've found that most people on Poal are ignorant of basic economics.

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Most people in general are ignorant of basic economics.

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Unfortunately, this is very true.

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Had this in s/funny but it was moved.

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You could actually pay for everything by just creating new money, though. It would inflate the money supply by the amount the government spends. I don't know if that would be enough to cause an inflationary spiral to where the currency would become worthless.

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Government spending actually stimulates the economy by something called the multiplier effect. For every dollar the govt. pays an employee, for example, that dollar spent and re-spent locally turns into 1.6 dollars or something like that. This only applies for locally spent money though. If the workers send their money 'back home' or the govt buys tech from Europe then this doesn't apply.

Printing money exactly creates inflation, resulting in increasing devaluation of the currency. Following WW1 Germany printed money like crazy which resulted in hyperinflation. Eventually workers were literally bringing home their wages in a wheelbarrow.

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Government spending actually stimulates the economy by something called the multiplier effect.

More so than if the government left that money in the economy in the first place? Taxes aren't black hole for money; the government just isn't very efficient at spending it. For instance, if the government pays out the money to a fat, lazy employee who does nothing of value, it enters the economy when that money is spent at Pizza Hut but an opportunity was missed for that money to go to an employee in the private sector who hopefully builds something.

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Money printing is a way to steal money from everyone else, even money they've got stashed in the mattress. It doesn't create it, it transfers it.

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This was covered in creature from Jekyll island

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It creates demand for dollars and gives them value.

You HAVE to have dollars.

If you don't, you can't pay taxes which are only payable in dollars. If you don't pay taxes you go to jail.

If the threat of imprisonment weren't there, the prime mover which initially creates demand for dollars would be gone.

They'd just be printing crap that nobody actually needs to live. Eventually the dollar would lose most or all value.

No one ever states this explicitly though so it took me forever to get it too.

The closest they'll get is saying "without the FED we wouldn't need an income tax."

And it's like what? Why? How are the two related? The relation is that taxes denominated in jew bux make the jew bux fiat bankster funny money valuable in the first place.

Fiat really should just be called a tax token. I know that term is already taken to describe old fractional coins used to pay property tax in the olden days. But the term applies perfectly to all fiat money. Literally all of it is just a token whose real purpose is to pay taxes with.

I suspect they don't call it that just to obfuscate what is really happening.

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Enslavement and control

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