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I'm more or less self-employed, though I have bosses, depending on the project and clients.

For that reason, I don't really experience what I'm hearing about from a couple of family members, who are claiming the job market is abysmal for white people. But I'm interested to know.

Is this true?

They have Irish names.

Their schools are white zip code schools, etc.

I assume it is easy enough to identify them as white from their resume, plus social media (dumb), etc.

I'm told they also just ask your race on every application.

I've done a couple of fly by tests and I'm setting up some profiles that I'm about use to run some tests with.

I am seeing some articles suggest that 10 applications should result in at least one interview, if you're doing it right.

https://www.zipjob.com/blog/application-to-interview-ratio/

Anywhere from 10 to 20% is considered average and 20% to 30% is a good application to interview ratio. Remember that the numbers can be very different depending on your industry and experience level; entry level applicants might see fewer responses while job searching because there is a bigger pool, or highly technical job openings might be seeking candidates with very specific skills.

https://www.blacktechjobs.com/5-Tactics-to-Improve-Your-Job-Application-to-Response-Ratio

https://www.askamanager.org/2015/09/whats-a-good-applicationinterview-rate.html

https://careers.workopolis.com/advice/the-truth-about-resumes/

These other articles all suggest about the same thing.

So, I've started with my cousin and his friend, who are both looking for jobs. We set up accounts at Indeed, Monster, USAJobs, etc. I also did a scrap of local job listings from craigslist and other smaller boards.

Additionally, I've created another set of accounts that are almost exactly the same, except the resumes are black people.

I've finished my first blast, so to speak, and have applied for approximately 300 jobs, each. It's only been a day, so we'll see, but there are zero responses for white resumes and 7 for black resume.

This is enough of a difference that I think I need to do more accounts and more testing. However, my first observation is that even the black resume is not getting anywhere near the response rate these articles suggest.

I'll start taking screenshots and making it more official.

But I wanted to ask Poal... is there something to this? Is it too soon for me to tell?

I'm more or less self-employed, though I have bosses, depending on the project and clients. For that reason, I don't really experience what I'm hearing about from a couple of family members, who are claiming the job market is abysmal for white people. But I'm interested to know. Is this true? They have Irish names. Their schools are white zip code schools, etc. I assume it is easy enough to identify them as white from their resume, plus social media (dumb), etc. I'm told they also just ask your race on every application. I've done a couple of fly by tests and I'm setting up some profiles that I'm about use to run some tests with. I am seeing some articles suggest that 10 applications should result in at least one interview, if you're doing it right. https://www.zipjob.com/blog/application-to-interview-ratio/ >Anywhere from 10 to 20% is considered average and 20% to 30% is a good application to interview ratio. Remember that the numbers can be very different depending on your industry and experience level; entry level applicants might see fewer responses while job searching because there is a bigger pool, or highly technical job openings might be seeking candidates with very specific skills. https://www.blacktechjobs.com/5-Tactics-to-Improve-Your-Job-Application-to-Response-Ratio https://www.askamanager.org/2015/09/whats-a-good-applicationinterview-rate.html https://careers.workopolis.com/advice/the-truth-about-resumes/ These other articles all suggest about the same thing. So, I've started with my cousin and his friend, who are both looking for jobs. We set up accounts at Indeed, Monster, USAJobs, etc. I also did a scrap of local job listings from craigslist and other smaller boards. Additionally, I've created another set of accounts that are almost exactly the same, except the resumes are black people. I've finished my first blast, so to speak, and have applied for approximately 300 jobs, each. It's only been a day, so we'll see, but there are zero responses for white resumes and 7 for black resume. This is enough of a difference that I think I need to do more accounts and more testing. However, my first observation is that even the black resume is not getting anywhere near the response rate these articles suggest. I'll start taking screenshots and making it more official. But I wanted to ask Poal... is there something to this? Is it too soon for me to tell?

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[–] 10 pts (edited )

And we are seeing the effects of all of this bullshit in a big way. How many products are going straight down the shitter? In particular, watch software companies. It's getting really really bad. In all my time in the tech industry (over 25 years), I've met NO black engineers. I've met TWO hispanic engineers (they were junior). I've met FOUR female engineers (two of whom had real problems staying employed). I've met a bunch of pajeet engineers, and almost all of them are terrible both professionally and personally. The pajeets are crazy nepotistic and always cause QA problems. I've met a bunch of Asian engineers, and for the most part they're pretty okay (for the most part). But the vast majority of quality engineers I've met have been White men.

Software developer for 20 years now. This has been my exact experience. Places that hire diversity engineers fail at software.

They actually said that when they get resumes from White men, those will go to the bottom of the pile until they have no choice but to hire them.

Record shit like this, then lawsuit.

Seriously as a manager who has to do the fucking gay training for 2 hours every year, this is violating a lot of various employment laws (I'm not even allowed to ask the TIME ZONE of people applying for remote work, because it might be discriminatory, even though we only hire in the US) and it's ripe for a lawsuit. Believe it or not there are actually lawyers who will take this shit on (maybe Robert Barnes or someone in that circle) and it's a slam dunk case, with several similar cases being recently won by Whites against wokeshit hiring depts.

Whites need to up their lawsuit game. Make these kikes fucking pay.

[–] 5 pts

I would totally lawyer up but as long as they either give no reason or stay very vague about why they're passing on you (as they all do), then there's nothing to pin them on. You can't just say "Hey you hired a pajeet in this role after you passed on me and I have a better resume" and expect a law-based solution to it. I wish we could, but that's just not the case.

I think it would be better to start an online data set of companies and approximate percentage of White vs non-White employees each has. If we started sharing that data openly then we might be able to cobble something together in terms of a lawsuit.

[–] 3 pts (edited )

Well for one thing if they are openly saying these things to their employees, that runs afoul of a bunch of things that don't require explicit proof of discrimination in hiring. The "hostile workplace" rule applies to that at the very least and is pretty easy to meet in terms of the legalese of it.

In addition to that if they are saying these things openly, lack of promotions becomes another avenue.

As for people who aren't yet working there:

I would totally lawyer up but as long as they either give no reason or stay very vague about why they're passing on you (as they all do), then there's nothing to pin them on.

True but as I posted earlier, the easy way to get proof is to apply to wokeshit companies with your regular resume and a fake nigger resume for the same position but with less experience.

If you hear back for the fabricated nigger resume you have yourself a case (this has been done successfully at least once).

I think it would be better to start an online data set of companies and approximate percentage of White vs non-White employees each has. If we started sharing that data openly then we might be able to cobble something together in terms of a lawsuit.

That's also a good idea.

[–] 3 pts

Ya you make a good case. I need to get back on creating a fake online persona.