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Fuck guys. I'm so fucked.

I had a decent job at a engineering/architectural firm for 7 years.

Was doing ok until Covid...then I just stopped caring. I used to be an early riser. 2nd or 3rd in the door. Did good work. After and during Covid BS I couldn't even make it out of bed some days. Couldn't be fucking bothered.

They fired me with a heap of severance, and I got a new job almost right away.

I'm not gonna make it through probationary period ..i can barely show up still. I space out 50% of the time.

Probably gonna drop the hammer on me soon. I can probably get another job...but how the fuck do I shake this BS off?

Everything seems so fucking pointless. 1/3 of my wage is gone to taxes right of the bat. Housing prices are fuckt. Everything is so expensive, BS politics, and wasteful spending. ..it just fucking seems pointless.

I need to move out of the city, but with my building, CAD, and design experience I can't get a decent paying job somewhere smaller.

Long and short i need to get a job work at it for a bit until I can switch careers to something where I can work in a smaller city/town.

But...how the fuck do I muster up the willpower to get in there and do it.

Gaurantee my girlfriend is gonna flip if/when I lose this job.

P.S. I turned down another company for a job, how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

Fuck guys. I'm so fucked. I had a decent job at a engineering/architectural firm for 7 years. Was doing ok until Covid...then I just stopped caring. I used to be an early riser. 2nd or 3rd in the door. Did good work. After and during Covid BS I couldn't even make it out of bed some days. Couldn't be fucking bothered. They fired me with a heap of severance, and I got a new job almost right away. I'm not gonna make it through probationary period ..i can barely show up still. I space out 50% of the time. Probably gonna drop the hammer on me soon. I can probably get another job...but how the fuck do I shake this BS off? Everything seems so fucking pointless. 1/3 of my wage is gone to taxes right of the bat. Housing prices are fuckt. Everything is so expensive, BS politics, and wasteful spending. ..it just fucking seems pointless. I need to move out of the city, but with my building, CAD, and design experience I can't get a decent paying job somewhere smaller. Long and short i need to get a job work at it for a bit until I can switch careers to something where I can work in a smaller city/town. But...how the fuck do I muster up the willpower to get in there and do it. Gaurantee my girlfriend is gonna flip if/when I lose this job. P.S. I turned down another company for a job, how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

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[–] 4 pts

how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

Go in. Use these exact words.

"I took some time and distance to reflect on the offer and reconsidered." This is both mature, and reconfirms that the decline was about giving it some proper thought. If they fault you for that, thats on them. Hasty moves aren't worth it.

Or do like I do.

"hey, long time no see. Look I know I said no, but I've decided to shamelessly beg for the job. Can you ever find it in your heart to give me a second chance?"

Stare em right in the eyes dead pan when you say this. Don't say "Look I know I turned down the job offer" because that gives away the game before the punchline. Just "look I know I said no." They'll be asking who you are, and you'll be finishing the sentence before they can even answer the question.

Ninety nine percent of the time they're stuck in corporate-robot mode making decisions on policy. Because of that you should be honest. Be straightforward. Most of all, be human and make them feel human.

It's a conversation, not life or death.

Thats how you build rapport.

As to the seeming pointlessness of it all, can say a lot of us experienced the same.

Lot of people left jobs over the masks. The demands for jabs from woke bosses. Or 'social' distancing. Whats the point if you know there will just be more lockdowns and they'll try and force all that shit on everyone again.

The way I see it is a lot of people are at the point of, if they ever have to decide between endless disinfecting, distancing, jabs, and the masks ever again, or their job, the u.s. government and western governments won't like the some of the public decides to put on.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

One of the employee here quit every fall, calling building inspector and what not on us. Every. Single. Time. When he come back in spring he always get back in. This time he had to cry for it tho.

We are in sales and he can bs a lot

[–] 1 pt (edited )

We are in sales and he can bs a lot

The most important part of the job for some.

Two methods of sales: 1. "work with the customer to figure out whats genuinely best for them" is the second best sales method 2. getting people out of their comfort zone, often referred to, incorrectly, as being 'pushy', which in studies was found to be the most effective sales methods. The guys who are rookies make the mistake of confusing comfort-zone-breaking with pushiness. But its more about understanding someones grey zone and their barriers to purchase. That specific thing, barriers to purchase, and focusing on breaking down those barriers, unlike the first method which is about focusing on needs and aligning them with the qualities of the service or product on offer.

Reason the second method is the goto for the most experienced is because it takes a lot more work to discover needs. People are naturally guarded, dont always know what they want, and have a host of other reasons for not having their needs on checklist. But objections, barriers to sale, are always up front. Everyone knows why a 'no' is a 'no' when they give it. And then it becomes a game of saying to them, well 'why not'? A game of keeping them in the conversation, of understanding when a no is actually a 'no', or really just a soft rejection because they have some reason or other for not making an immediate decision. And if you're getting a soft-no its because some part of them wants to say yes.

need-finders are miners.

barrier-removers are refiners.

The refiners always make their money on the mark up. The miners always eat the cost of failure, just like actual real life mining companies.