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Fuck guys. I'm so fucked.

I had a decent job at a engineering/architectural firm for 7 years.

Was doing ok until Covid...then I just stopped caring. I used to be an early riser. 2nd or 3rd in the door. Did good work. After and during Covid BS I couldn't even make it out of bed some days. Couldn't be fucking bothered.

They fired me with a heap of severance, and I got a new job almost right away.

I'm not gonna make it through probationary period ..i can barely show up still. I space out 50% of the time.

Probably gonna drop the hammer on me soon. I can probably get another job...but how the fuck do I shake this BS off?

Everything seems so fucking pointless. 1/3 of my wage is gone to taxes right of the bat. Housing prices are fuckt. Everything is so expensive, BS politics, and wasteful spending. ..it just fucking seems pointless.

I need to move out of the city, but with my building, CAD, and design experience I can't get a decent paying job somewhere smaller.

Long and short i need to get a job work at it for a bit until I can switch careers to something where I can work in a smaller city/town.

But...how the fuck do I muster up the willpower to get in there and do it.

Gaurantee my girlfriend is gonna flip if/when I lose this job.

P.S. I turned down another company for a job, how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

Fuck guys. I'm so fucked. I had a decent job at a engineering/architectural firm for 7 years. Was doing ok until Covid...then I just stopped caring. I used to be an early riser. 2nd or 3rd in the door. Did good work. After and during Covid BS I couldn't even make it out of bed some days. Couldn't be fucking bothered. They fired me with a heap of severance, and I got a new job almost right away. I'm not gonna make it through probationary period ..i can barely show up still. I space out 50% of the time. Probably gonna drop the hammer on me soon. I can probably get another job...but how the fuck do I shake this BS off? Everything seems so fucking pointless. 1/3 of my wage is gone to taxes right of the bat. Housing prices are fuckt. Everything is so expensive, BS politics, and wasteful spending. ..it just fucking seems pointless. I need to move out of the city, but with my building, CAD, and design experience I can't get a decent paying job somewhere smaller. Long and short i need to get a job work at it for a bit until I can switch careers to something where I can work in a smaller city/town. But...how the fuck do I muster up the willpower to get in there and do it. Gaurantee my girlfriend is gonna flip if/when I lose this job. P.S. I turned down another company for a job, how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

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[–] 14 pts

I feel almost exactly the same way and have had a somewhat similar experience. I just have such a hard time caring anymore. I work from home now and it’s so so boring and I’ve noticed people have really changed.

I’m having a hard time too, so you’re not alone.

What keeps me going is my kids and my family. I almost regret bringing kids in to this world now, but I did, so I have to do everything I can for them. That’s part of what’s keeping me going.

The other parts keeping me going are pure rage at what’s happened to the world and the people causing it. I’m so very angry and I have no real way to let it out. Also that I don’t want to die in destitution. I live a pretty materially comfortable life now because of my knowledge and profession, and I’d like to keep it that way. Better to have choices.

I don’t know if this helps you. I hope it does. Please find a reason to keep going. Find a mission. Find a goal. Being on Poal means you’re a different sort of person than the normies and we need all of you we can get.

Sometimes, when you can’t care, you just need to grind through it until you can find a reason to care again. So grind for now.

[–] 3 pts

God commanded us men to be productive.

What you are both doing is worshipping Satan instead. He is whispering to you. Nothing matters. Don't be productive. Be lazy. Rot and die.

You need to fix your spirit. Mediate. Prey. Obey God.

[–] 13 pts

Quit being a faggot worrying about jew sheckles and put a baby in your woman.

[–] 4 pts (edited )

Fair, need to man up a bit.

Not worry about the sheckles...well shit. Everything is in sheckles these day.

If i owned land or could barter stuff and be self sufficient sure. But how the fuck else do you get by if not for working for sheckles?

[–] 3 pts

shit 50 acres in AZ is 25K, if you want to live 30 miles outside of town in the desert :D

[–] 1 pt

I wish I could find 20 acres for that price out in the midwest or mountains somewhere

[–] 0 pt

Not sure if id like to live in a desert...might help with my seasonal allergies...50 acres might be a bit much...id rather have 5-10 somewhere more lush.

To be fair...never really tried. I'm sure with rainwater harvesting and plant selectuon you could grow stuff fairly well.

The main reason Id want a big yard for.

[–] 3 pts

Did that. Now my daughter is dead and I'm back to not caring, except more intense this time. You think you have it all figured out. You don't.

[–] 0 pt

I'm so sorry. SpouseAnon's son died age 16 many years ago. It does get easier...you learn to push it down where it can be taken out, examined and put away for a stronger day. He still grieves for his son. The most profound loss is that of a child. Again, very sorry for your loss. World suxs.

[–] 10 pts

We are witnessing the decline of Western Civilization so it's understandable to be discouraged and apathetic about the future. However you need to accept that the world will decline during your lifetime, especially for White men and don't despair about it. See it as a challenge to take as much as you can from the remains of the structure using your skills. Move to the smallest city where you can find a decent job. Buy property in a more rural area where you can go for recuperation and prepare to retire there as soon as you can. Avoid the media. Seek out a few trustworthy people. If your girlfriend doesn't support you, dump her. Study stoicism to become more resilient. Accept the need for God to sustain you physically and emotionally. Live humbly and honorably.

[–] 6 pts

Move out of the city. You may make less money, but living expenses will be less as well. You will probably lose your "city girl" girl friend. Don't worry, there are lots of single women out in the country, and for some strange reason, many of them think city boys are cool. Don't move into a rural area with the idea that you are better and smarter than country folk, because you aren't. Nobody out in the country wants to hear how you did things back in the city. If they cared about that, they would be living in the city. In fact, don't be afraid to ask how things are done in your new home. Another thing, if you act a little dumb, (don't over do it) you will probably make new friends more quickly. No one likes a smart ass city boy. A humble guy, willing to listen and learn, on the other hand... Buy some guns. Join a gun club with a gun range and learn how to use and maintain your guns. You will make some new friends in the process. OK, that's a good start. I think you can handle it from here...

[–] 3 pts

Thanks dude. Yeah, the girlfriend and I have talked it over quite a bit and want to move to a smaller place and start a family.

Guess it's just a matter of getting to it and doing it.

[–] 1 pt

The post above has good advice. Country life is different, and just because people lead simpler lives does not make them stupid.

[–] 2 pts

I've always found the exact opposite. Country people tend to be problem solvers.

[–] 0 pt

Sorry if I misjudged your girl friend. If she is willing to make the move with you that's great. Having a good woman beside you will make things easier, as long as she is really into it. If she's just going along to get along, just waiting for you to "come to your senses" and move back to the city, it is going to be a disaster. You need to really make sure she is onboard or you're in for a living hell. Been there, done that. Be sure she understands the part about people really not giving a shit about "how we did it back in the city." Saying things like that will get you ostracized quicker than just about anything. Good luck! A lot of city people think that opportunities to do things are greater in the city. They are dead wrong! There are just as many things to do out in the country, they are just different. Have an open mind.

[–] 0 pt

I recommend Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, or the Dakotas. Not too hard to find a slice of paradise in the rural zones.

[–] [deleted] 6 pts

Thought about consulting work? Start an llc and just offer design services remotely. Advertise in local papers and do small jobs for residents needing an architect to design their garages and additions and stuff.

[–] 3 pts

Yeah, unfoetunately not able to offer those kind of services as Im not certified.

I thought about soing similar and just offering drafting services and deaign work to firms or people who need stuff drafted, designed, or drawn.

I'm pretty decent at 3d modelling too(been a while, but easy enough to pick up again)

But, not too much demand for it seems like.

[–] 1 pt

unfoetunately not able to offer those kind of services as Im not certified.

Sounds like you're close to opening new opportunities for yourself, something to work toward then.

...not too much demand for it seems like

Unless you've already tried heavily marketing to people and keep coming up empty handed, this sounds like self-projection. Demand is not black & white, some of your skills will partially match demand in ways you're just not considering right now.

[–] 1 pt

This is solid advice, assuming you have a PE

[–] [deleted] 6 pts (edited )

Even if he is more on the architect side of things. Become buddies with a PE and just do the designs in cad and have him review them and toss him a percentage. Most of the regulations aren't even speccing for PE's anymore just architects for residential. Last i checked most architects aren't even PE's or Engineers in general. Separate curriculums.

[–] 4 pts

how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

Go in. Use these exact words.

"I took some time and distance to reflect on the offer and reconsidered." This is both mature, and reconfirms that the decline was about giving it some proper thought. If they fault you for that, thats on them. Hasty moves aren't worth it.

Or do like I do.

"hey, long time no see. Look I know I said no, but I've decided to shamelessly beg for the job. Can you ever find it in your heart to give me a second chance?"

Stare em right in the eyes dead pan when you say this. Don't say "Look I know I turned down the job offer" because that gives away the game before the punchline. Just "look I know I said no." They'll be asking who you are, and you'll be finishing the sentence before they can even answer the question.

Ninety nine percent of the time they're stuck in corporate-robot mode making decisions on policy. Because of that you should be honest. Be straightforward. Most of all, be human and make them feel human.

It's a conversation, not life or death.

Thats how you build rapport.

As to the seeming pointlessness of it all, can say a lot of us experienced the same.

Lot of people left jobs over the masks. The demands for jabs from woke bosses. Or 'social' distancing. Whats the point if you know there will just be more lockdowns and they'll try and force all that shit on everyone again.

The way I see it is a lot of people are at the point of, if they ever have to decide between endless disinfecting, distancing, jabs, and the masks ever again, or their job, the u.s. government and western governments won't like the some of the public decides to put on.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

One of the employee here quit every fall, calling building inspector and what not on us. Every. Single. Time. When he come back in spring he always get back in. This time he had to cry for it tho.

We are in sales and he can bs a lot

[–] 1 pt (edited )

We are in sales and he can bs a lot

The most important part of the job for some.

Two methods of sales: 1. "work with the customer to figure out whats genuinely best for them" is the second best sales method 2. getting people out of their comfort zone, often referred to, incorrectly, as being 'pushy', which in studies was found to be the most effective sales methods. The guys who are rookies make the mistake of confusing comfort-zone-breaking with pushiness. But its more about understanding someones grey zone and their barriers to purchase. That specific thing, barriers to purchase, and focusing on breaking down those barriers, unlike the first method which is about focusing on needs and aligning them with the qualities of the service or product on offer.

Reason the second method is the goto for the most experienced is because it takes a lot more work to discover needs. People are naturally guarded, dont always know what they want, and have a host of other reasons for not having their needs on checklist. But objections, barriers to sale, are always up front. Everyone knows why a 'no' is a 'no' when they give it. And then it becomes a game of saying to them, well 'why not'? A game of keeping them in the conversation, of understanding when a no is actually a 'no', or really just a soft rejection because they have some reason or other for not making an immediate decision. And if you're getting a soft-no its because some part of them wants to say yes.

need-finders are miners.

barrier-removers are refiners.

The refiners always make their money on the mark up. The miners always eat the cost of failure, just like actual real life mining companies.

[–] 4 pts

Do you execise? Get a heavy bag, learn to wrap your hands, watch some boxing howto videos. (videos are fine for getting started with footwork etc.). Go slow. Don't break your hands or wrists.

Change your body chemistry through brute force and then ride that wave until you get your head on straight. I'm serious.

I'm not currently where are but I've been there before. I used to travel when I got like that but, as they say, "Wherever you go ... there you are."

[–] 1 pt

Yeah, I usually cycle 30-40 daily. Mix in some yoga at home. Some kettlebell stuff at home. And top rope climbing.

Fallen off the kettlebell and climbind during the last 2-3 weeks though.

Was looking at doing some sort of martial Arts of sorts, for fitness, fun, and to be better able to defend myaelf, but...with the job bs and motivation problem havent found the time for it.

But, yeah...exercise is pretty important....sure helpa towards being better.

[–] 0 pt

I'm glad to hear you have exercise as a baseline. It has been so helpful to me at various points.

I'll get flamed for saying it here but if boxing ain't your thing another option which is extremely practical is Krav Maga. Practical in the sense that its brutal for self-defense purposes but because it will get you in amongst "our greatest allies" where you can verify the stereotypes and then not feel so bad about wielding them. As an example, some of the first few techniques in Krav are eye gouging and punching in the throat. Chicken-shit moves in an honorable fight but this is coming from a people that lacks honor and their foreign policy habits manifest in the "white belt" stage of their martial art.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts (edited )

Try being right in the middle of a career change and then be hit with all the covid bs. I still haven't recovered and I'm so far out of my last career that I get overlooked because of.

>P.S. I turned down another company for a job, how would reccommend I ask for another job offet from them?

It's a door that was never fully closed. Reach back out and tell them you'd like to join their team.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

I feel ya, bro. I'm in a similar position. Stopped caring about two years ago. Losing tons of money due to inflation and house prices are through the roof. Thinking just buying a small house in the middle of nowhere, quit my job and become a hermit.

[–] 3 pts

I am in the same mindset. So much I'm selling my business and retiring at 42.

[+] [deleted] 3 pts
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