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Pretty sure this question came up many times. i currently live in a big city, and plan to move out sometime, and hopefully get married and have kids. here's a checklist that i know:

low crime (check everything as some try to hide it as was the case for online real estate sites) mostly white good schools (although i may home school or private school) low taxes average to little traffic power/hydro/gas abundant

pretty sure i'm missing many. if you can chime in, or even say a city, cool.

Pretty sure this question came up many times. i currently live in a big city, and plan to move out sometime, and hopefully get married and have kids. here's a checklist that i know: low crime (check everything as some try to hide it as was the case for online real estate sites) mostly white good schools (although i may home school or private school) low taxes average to little traffic power/hydro/gas abundant pretty sure i'm missing many. if you can chime in, or even say a city, cool.

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Currently, there is an additional thing to look for.

Many markets are insanely expensive right now (like austin tx for example). I know real-estate is up, but these markets are WAY UP, and thus you may well lose money when its time to move again, and your taxes will be too high (based on your purchase price).

While there are other markets (to use texas again, near but not on the boarder). Some markets for whatever reason (political in this example) have repressed markets, they are still up, but they are still reasonably priced, so if the markets go down, you wont lose nearly as much as "austin" and thus you'll be profitable again shortly.

One thing that i cannot stress enough, as a POALer. Look for property where you can have livestock, this is key for many reasons, and you don't need that much property..

1) if she gets bad, have your own chickens, etc (the obvious) 2) AG exemptions are amazing, property tax only a tiny portion of your land. Many states (lets use texas again) offer ag exemptions even for bee keeping. Not to mention that you can (again in texas) register as "ag/timber" and not have to pay sales tax on things used exclusively for that purpose. (seed, animals, UTV's, lawn/garden equipment, trailers, all sort of stuff that "farmer john" would need would fall under this. 3) getting an ag exemption also makes a number of government programs/grants available to you.

There is a reason that alof of the traveling consultants, sales and other high earners buy ranches, and taxes is a massive part of it

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Having lived in Austin as a homeless bum, I can't believe people pay good money to live around a bunch of bums. Austin is a beautiful shithole. If you have any money, live rural. All the above 1, 2, 3 are completely right.

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Now that the mayor of that shit hole made public camping legal for the homeless (for a time) a shit ton of criminal ones moved in, plus they defunded the police. Fuck that place

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See if the city stores and bars/restaurants go dead at a certain time with all stores etc closing or rules of no alcohol sales on Sunday.

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What drunkard needs 24x7 access to alcohol?

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'Drunkard' is a heavy term, we prefer 'functioning alcoholic' in today's vernacular. But, uh, in answer to your question: this one.

Probably the type of bad egg you don't want to live around.

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Avoid a big cities. Get a house with some land near a small city if you must. When everything collapses you'll be glad if you can grow your own food.

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We’re looking into moving. This is my list of things to check.

Racial demographics first. If it’s nig infested nothing else matters. Less than 10% is ideal. Look up the racial demographics of the local schools separately and racial demographics by age. Check what percent were born outside of US to avoid ‘white’ towns. Also look up how close the nearest mosque is to avoid ‘white people’. One time we went to look at a house and the place was crawling with muzzies. It was supposedly over 90% white there. Don’t let them fool you.

Crime rate. Not just violent crime rate. Look up drug overdose pet 100,000. Rates of rape is a good one to look up too. Sometimes otherwise safe places have high rape or overdose rate.

Political demographics. Look up who the area voted for in the last few elections.

If you have children or plan on it in the future look to see if the state allows vaccine exemptions for school. Most do. I used this map to rule out the ones with no exemptions: https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx

Also look up if the state requires the children learn about gay stuff. If you can stand hot weather moving to a don’t say gay state is ideal. You can homeschool your children but that doesn’t mean their friends, or your future grandkids will be saved from brainwashing.

Looking up which states have lower percentages of gays could help too. It’s social contagion and should be avoided.

I found this helpful for avoiding places that were too gay. It also lists whether the state requires them to teach LGBT and all sorts of stuff. https://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps

Another one to check is water quality. This site lists contaminants and you can look up specific areas. https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/

Check to see where the closest colleges are. They tend to take over places and ruin everything. I lived near a small college and watched them buy up half the town. And the college kids were always causing trouble, driving drunk, destroying everything in town because it’s temporary and they have home to go back to. This isn’t a deal breaker for me but it is something to watch out for.

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Here's a list of sex offenders in your area. If you are moving to a city, they will be everywhere; Just another tool to help you make a decision. https://www.familywatchdog.us/

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Alright, I have a lot of frustration over this one.

See how fast the town is fucking growing. Keep an eye out and see if it's making any lists online, that could draw attention. Check out the status on marijuana laws. If anyone is pushing for legalization locally. Do some research on jews in the area. Is there a synagogue? Is it a mostly white area, and there are jews there with no rabbi, who are demanding one? Is there already a jewish population with a synagogue and a rabbi?

Think long-term. Because these nice, low crime rate White towns are changing due to all of this. A lot of undesirables are moving into them all across the country and changing the environment.

My town used to be mostly White. Low crime. Nice neighborhoods for the most part. Now, it's impossible to get anywhere due to all of the traffic. Our black population exploded several thousand percent in under 5 years. Also, we have a fucking ass load of Muslims and quite a few Mosques. We have a problem with rape now, it goes without saying.

Take all of that into consideration. Not HOW it currently is. But how it might be in a decade or two.

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It depends on what's important to you. I recently moved to a city without any connections or jobs lined up but with a car and $10,000 in savings I was able to find a place to live, find a good job and figure things out relatively easily. The things I looked at in order of importance is below.

  1. (the lower, the better) The LAUS provides the best rate imo but there's also the ACS and CPS as well.
  2. # of jobs available in your field, and within a 50 mile radius of the city (looking on indeed.com, craigslist, monster.com, etc)
  3. Compare the # jobs available to the # of unemployed people and rank each city based on this number (from the LAUS database above, you can get the # of unemployed people in cities with a population over 25,000 each month of the year).
  4. After that and in no particular order I looked at , , type of climate, weather (average # of sunny days in a year, summer highs, winter lows, average humidity), availability of hobbies/ things to do (mountains for snowboarding, ocean for surfing, rivers for fishing, etc.), and the

Hope this helps and good luck!

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Nick Johnson - YouTube - he helps people relocate for a living

I also think he’s funny as hell. His songs rule.

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Make sure there is no welfare office in / nearby town.

No public transport (i.e. train station) is a bonus too. Because this is how the drug affected get around to the different towns.

Super cold areas help because you have to work hard to live there in winter.

Drive around town and if people are leaving stuff like bikes in their front yards then this is a good sign too (low theft).

Join the community groups on social media and see what people are saying.

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This is a really good post.

Go somewhere with no public transport.

There was a reason Beverly hills tried so hard to keep the subway from LA from having a stop in Beverly hills. There is a reason that the nice side of Atlanta in Buckhead and Lenox square shopping mall which used to be incredible went South immediately when they opened a subway station just outside the property. And there was a reason that that mall built a huge fence around three quarters of its property to make it extremely difficult for anybody to walk from that subway stop until next square mall. There's a reason the crime rate is soared there and people getting murdered and shot now.

Honestly I've never really thought about it before but I think public transportation is really biggest future indicator of whether in the next 5 years your place has a good chance of going to hell. All the other statistics are behind. But public transportation or if you see that they're debating public transportation and they've been talking about it in the last couple of City county meetings talking about expanding it into the area you're thinking of moving do not move there or whatever you do. Because overnight it will change the area. Literally overnight the day after the public transportation opens it will completely change the area.

I also think a cold place has merit as well for the reasons you mentioned.

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check all tax rates: local, state, real estate, personal property, etc. In Pennsylvania I pay 3x as much as family in Florida whose houses are valued 3x more than mine. Plus in my city, if your sidewalk is cracked they make you replace it which is very expensive if you live on a corner.

I would add access to real food, local farms is vital.

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