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Okay realistically marriage is not going to be as great as they say, but at what point does this cross the line to becoming abnormal? Typically these altercations start with her saying something really nasty and uncalled for, followed by me begging her to please stop, and then that really makes her blow up since I am interrupting her tirade and stopping her from speaking.

Edit: Thank you to those who took the time to write serious advice

Okay realistically marriage is not going to be as great as they say, but at what point does this cross the line to becoming abnormal? Typically these altercations start with her saying something really nasty and uncalled for, followed by me begging her to please stop, and then that really makes her blow up since I am interrupting her tirade and stopping her from speaking. Edit: Thank you to those who took the time to write serious advice

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Also just remembered "Kevin Samuels" is also legend on YT.

I tell people that nothing is written in stone and it comes down to what you're willing to contend with and what you're capable of managing long term. Patrice loved to talk about how all guys and their SO should swing somewhat regularly. I don't much care for that, because smashing some other dude's chick while watching my girl get it from some other guy just doesn't do for me what it did for him. (I feel sexual degeneracy, is something the community still does not address directly, but that's beside the point. I'm a firm believer that good advice stands on its own regardless of which mouth utters it.) If you listen carefully when he talks about this is fairly clear his real intention was to say that you need to remove unhealthy attachment AND ONE WAY to accomplish this is to swing/swap... There are other ways to get to that point and I cringe at this topic because I'm worried too many men haven't picked up on the distinction and other methods and blindly decide to swing/swap and have a bad experience... as is normal.

You need to get a VERY wide range of views from as many guys as you can and then draw your own conclusions. I would not avoid Patrice because of his penchant for degeneracy, but I also would not take his words as blind gospel and I apply this to all my "role models" in this sphere.

I'm still very much learning every day, my SO keeps me on my toes. Reading and learning all that I have I now know with confidence that he is normal to a degree. Having these insights helps me notice when her bitching increases suddenly. Usually, she needs a dicking, sometimes that doesn't do it, then I have to point out hot younger women in public in a funny way, reassert my interest in her and mention how in the long run I prefer women in dresses. My girl is a freak in the sheets but I give her a reason to clean up and put on a nice summer dress with heels. Then we laugh at the basic bitches in yoga pants and UGGs. If things don't even out with her in a few days I've on a couple of occasions now resorted to telling her flat out that she can leave if she needs to figure shit out. When Patrice said that you need to give women options, he was so spot on that it still fucking blows my mind when I have to resort to it.

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>Patrice loved to talk about how all guys and their SO should swing somewhat regularly. I don't much care for that, because smashing some other dude's chick while watching my girl get it from some other guy just doesn't do for me what it did for him.

That is because he is a nigger. Niggers are a completely different species of human with a completely different reproductive strategies. White kids are raised by families, black kids are raised by villages. That is because a key reproductive strategy for niggers is rape. In a black village a black kid can never be sure of who his father is, while a white kid in a white family can be fairly certain of it.

I like your description of your relationship. It sounds like both of you want what is best for each other and that alone is the only barometer of relationship health that matters. Everything else is just supporting skillsets.

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Your theory is not correct. It's weak enough that I can disprove it by the several black men I have known personally who were, apart from their skin color, no different from you and I.

That being said, most black men are niggers, though not all, so your premise is still flawed. It's not genetic but rather cultural. Most people, black or white, fall into the trap of inspiring to be a low IQ nigger. Young white liberal youth who spent the last 10 yrs screaming like children about my body my choice. Then covid flipped a switch overnight and now the state owns your body and only bigots disagree... These people are niggers.

The problems in our world to day are not a failure of skin color but a failure of the content of character.

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I appreciate the disagreement.

My response is not to argue the point, but to share a set of claims that I hold and just leave it at that.

My assertion is that they are comletely different species of human from white people. I also claim that there are least 7 completely separate species of human on the planet:

  • nigger
  • asian
  • shitskin
  • australian aboriginal
  • north / south american indian
  • white
  • polynesian

Roughly speaking, each of those are entirely separate species so much so that you automatically have past explanatory power. So, for example, statistically heritable traits like iq, personality predispositions by species, physionomical traits and even cultural / behavioural norms of each species are born out in statistics about each species. This, naturally, has predictive power as well. For example, if you know something about a species, for example a lion, you know that you will never be able to tame it and that if you leave your 2 year old with it it will tear it to shreds. Wheras if you know something about another species, let's say golden retreiver, you know that if the dog has been properly socialized it will protect not only your two year old it will give it's life for it.

So, 1355. Niggers make up 13% of the population but make up 55% of all crime (violent, I have to double check the specifics of this). So, if you know the species, you can not only have past explanatory power you now have future predictive power. Everywhere you have niggers in a foreign population you get the same ration for crime statistics across the globe.

Now, the person making the claim has to provide the evidence. As mentioned above, I am only sharing my claims and a teeny tiny suggestion that evidence might exist.

I used to believe what you believe as well. It turns out to be jew propaganda inserted into our school curriculums that teach our white children that all people are the same and all humans are one species. This is obviously wrong. The reasons jews have done this in every civilization they inhabit is because they are essentially an invasive species in every civilization they inhabit and part of their survival strategy is to slowly weaken the host through the slow insertion of cultural and linguistic poison that confuses our people to the true nature of the the universe around us.

The evidence for that would be somewhere along the categories of emergent intelligence in independetly organized intelligent systems as can be seen in fire ants being able to self organize in incredibly complicated ways to solve all kinds of systems that their individual brains have no capacity to solve. Human organization has all sorts of emergent network effects that we are only starting to see, the jew insertion of the 'we are all the same, we are all one species' is probably closer to the emergent behaviour of a species need to survive than it is a deliberate and organized plan.

I hope you find some of that interesting.

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Patrice loved to talk about how all guys and their SO should swing somewhat regularly.

That's vile. Why would you want to destroy your sacred bond with your partner by fucking around with others? That fucks your pair bonding ability. I belong to my husband and he belongs to me, and there will never be any of this jewish nonsense.

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to telling her flat out that she can leave if she needs to figure shit out.

Pro tip there.

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What is a good non-swinging way to become less attached? I think over attachment is why I can't deal with her tantrums. She was my first GF after running away from an abusive childhood.

You ran from an abusive parent to an abusive gf. Do you see the pattern? You're playing our your childhood 'role' all over again.

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Haha lol, same background myself, minus the running away part. I lived through it allll the way. People who go through what we have are why textbooks on unhealthy attachment are written. But there is always hope, any situation, no matter how bleak, can always be improved. Most of what you're going to learn could be distilled down to 'mindset'.

There is a mountain of work ahead of you, changes in character and personality which require the acquisition of related knowledge before you can grow into the person you want to become. I've spent the last 10 yrs working on this particular path, but in the last 2-3 yrs I really saw significant changes. I'll never stop growing and each new day is progress regardless of what happens. You need to educate YOURSELF on psychology, philosophy, the red pill knowledge that you're not taught in schools. The stuff that makes you a social pariah among your pears instantly. There was a great essay written about 2010 that predicted so much of what came later, I couldn't find the link but it was about the end of the social contract and the coming four horsemen. The main thing is what you need is like fight club, and the first rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club with the gen pop, only vetted members. Please do not make the mistake of having to learn this yourself the hard way, but don't beat yourself up if you do.

Ultimately, you need what so many men today need. We need to learn how to be real MEN. The way in which you will ultimately define the standards a MAN must meet will be up to you to a degree. However, you will need to learn of your true history. Philosophy, Stoicism, Dedication, and Honor to yourself and your people. What women expect of us has not changed, we've simply been fooled into believing otherwise. For women, it's not so much a concern because they are the ones who select, and there's always enough wealthy men around to satisfy the ease with which many women will share a high-value man.

TL;DR: To answer your question more directly, you need to become the kind of man that other women want. Generally, your starting point would be to go out and try to flirt with women, but this isn't so much an option for you. If you got rejected by enough women you'd be more confident around them eventually if you kept on track. Once you got just good enough you'd have more success and women would come to you more. Trust me when a say this, the key is the stage once women start coming to you more and more. That's the part that will kick your growth into high gear. So you could grind away with the public interactions and rejection angle... or you can skip years and just get into good or great physical shape. You can do this in 3 months or less. Once women start noticing you, your wife will immediately start noticing them noticing you ;)

Women only want what other women want. You may notice 1/3 or 1/2 of the women that check you out in public... your SO notices 100% of the glances from other women. If other women don't find you attractive then she doesn't find you attractive. This includes clothing, your walk, how you stand and carry yourself, your posture. It sounds so cliche but it really is just this simple, ACT LIKE A FUCKING MAN!. The tone of delivery there is again something you need to learn to appreciate. It's fucked, we all agree, but just fucking do it, don't let anything or anyone take advantage of you. And then appreciate the rewards your efforts bring and always remain humble. Do you have a respectable wardrobe? Any dress shirts and pants in there? Can you correctly color coordinate your own clothes or do you look like a clown? How good are you at ironing your clothes? If my girl irons in my creases or does my tie, it's because she likes doing it and I let her... but it is never because I cannot.

We've all got it in us deep down, it's only a matter of undoing the brainwashing and finding the things they took out and put them back in. The rest of us all want to see you succeed because then it's one less woman the rest of us need to manage ;) Honest to god, they're mostly all wrecks in some way, like children. It's up to men to keep dumb people from hurting themselves and there is so much work to be done in the world.