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We are never going back to the days of carbs, mech fuel pumps run off the cam, and standing in the engine bay while working on the car's engine. But what can I buy new or slightly used that isn't a death trap, and can most likely be repaired at home with a decent set of hand tools and a jack if something goes wrong? No removing the front end bodywork to get to a windshield washer pump (Subaru), no jacking the engine off its mounts to get to an alternator (Mazda), no disassembling the engine bay to replace a sensor (VW). And for f**k's sake, no turbo or hybrid anything (Ford).

We are never going back to the days of carbs, mech fuel pumps run off the cam, and standing in the engine bay while working on the car's engine. But what can I buy new or slightly used that isn't a death trap, and can most likely be repaired at home with a decent set of hand tools and a jack if something goes wrong? No removing the front end bodywork to get to a windshield washer pump (Subaru), no jacking the engine off its mounts to get to an alternator (Mazda), no disassembling the engine bay to replace a sensor (VW). And for f**k's sake, no turbo or hybrid anything (Ford).

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Anything that has a General Motors 350 cc/5.7 liter engine. They've been using basically the same base for 50+ years. Still lots of pre-2000 cars with this motor still on the roads and the junkyards are full of spare parts too.

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There's a guy in New Zealand buying back old tractors to ship back to the UK because farmers are done with new tractors computer chips refusing to turn on cause too cold. Among other reasons.

Farmers aren't stupid they see where things are going with spares and need to self repair which new tractors are locking them out of

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Farmers aren't stupid

Of course they aren't, they're the backbone to Aryan civilization :)

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New? Nothing. You have to be a goddam computer expert. The new F150 has $25,000 worth of sensors, almost all of them UNNEEDED BULLSHIT. Fuck a new car in the tailpipe.

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That shit bugs me. What do you mean I have to remove a structural support to change the battery? Wtf?

Or pulling the oil drain plug causes the oil to splatter everywhere off of the suspension arm or frame? The engineers didn't know cars have wheels and suspensions? Wtf?

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It's bad design, that's all it is. To make things easy to work on requires a little thought and a little more money. The car makers are short on both.

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Same with oil filter why do i i have to unscrew it horizontally so oil gets all over my other engine components. Want to change a headlight or air filter? Better remove all these other parts first.

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My massey furgusen has a vertical oil filter because it's designers weren't idiots

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FFS, I had browed a friends car. He had a blinker that was out and lived in a big city. As a "Thank you" I replaced the fing thing for him because he was lazy.

IT TOOK AN HOUR AND I HAD TO REMOVE THE BATTERY. For A damn turning signal. What a POS.

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I assume they have a special oil pan for dealer service shops. I don't think a professional car mechanic would put up with that nonsense.

They're outsourcing all kinds of engineering to Asia, not just software, and it shows.

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Because the dealer sucks the oil out rather than drain it

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Not that that doesn't suck but I got a fumoto oil valve and makes it a lot easier to change the oil, especially if you've got skid plates all over the place.

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Falcon radiator swapover involves infinitely more time and temper tantrums than the four bolts and two hoses and pull on a Holden Commodore....

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Good answer I went with a dodge 5.9 diesel but that Toyota is a legend

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Not anymore though, DO NOT BUY NEW.

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I was just thinking about this the other day. This is a problem that pissess off a lot of people. Also, the manufacturers stop making parts after 7 or so years making it harder to find replacement parts.

What if a bunch of us started a company that only sold a few models (sedan, truck, SUV whatever). The frame would always be the same, the space allocated for parts would always be the same, the parts would always mount to the same spots, so even if there were improvements over time, because they were given a bit of extra space to begin with, the new parts could be swapped in easily. Essentially you could buy all of the parts yourself and put it together, or buy one pre assembled. This is the big one. NO computerized parts. Everything works on its own.

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Anything with a 1993 or before 6.5 liter diesel engine would be my vote.

Mine has 330K miles on it, there is no electronics at all - the glowplugs are triggered by a switch on my dash, the injection pump is 100% mechanical, so the fucker will survive an EMF blast to boot. The military uses these blocks in hummers- simple to manufacture and repair. They are also still in production for this purpose.

Bonus: The old fuckers will run on anything to include frying oils (newer diesel designs won't do this easily)... not saying that I do it, but you could, in theory, easily obtain kerosene or "offroad only diesel fuel", which has no highway tax added to it, and it will run just fine. Diesel also stores better longterm than gas will, and happens to also run the generator for my house and tractor. Building a fuel dyke at home is a must if you intend to have any autonomy during a crisis.

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I bought a 2002 Grand Prix GT 6 years ago and wish I never sold it. It was easy to work on, parts were still available at O'Reilly & AutoZone, and didn't have to deal with any weird electronics.

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A Jeep TJ Wrangler or any Jeep with the 4.0 inline 6 cylinder. The engine is amazingly simple, inline engines are less complex than V. The engines are extremely tough and will easily last 200k miles. There's a ton of room in the engine compartment. Parts are extremely cheap and easy to get. Anytime I ever had to fix anything on my Jeep (which has only been a few times), it's been laughably easy. Oil changes are extremely simple. I have a friend who has one in his Cherokee. He put new pistons in it and fixed a head gasket while the engine was still mounted in the Cherokee. Happened around 200k miles, I think 250k.

The new Jeeps are trash, they have minivan engines in them.

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A better question IMHO is "what car or truck doesn't need repairs in the first place?"

I'm amazed at what people consider normal for repairs as I've never had one of my cars have a mechanical problem in over 20 years. I have friends with all kinds of cars who act like it's normal to need to fix something on their older car every few months.

Over my lifetime I have had to deal with Hondas, Volswagens, Fords, Dodges, Chevys, and Toyotas - either my own car or a family member in my household. The only brand that has consistently never had a single problem in the first 120,000 miles is Toyota. The only problem I've ever had with a Toyota is that after ~130,000 miles I needed to replace the belts and hoses. I've never had one break down on me ever - not the engine, transmission, or any other mechanical system. Not even stupid stuff like door locks or door handles. Nothing. I did have a headlight burn out at about 130,000 miles on one of them. That's the worst thing that's ever happened to one of my Toyotas.

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I can add my own experience to this. Bought a brand new Toyota a few years ago, and I have it well over 100k, and it has never had any issues whatsoever. I have done regular oil changes, replaced wipers and tires, and filled the wiper fluid. That's the extent of the "repairs".

I think I got one of the last Corollas with a 6-speed manual transmission. I'm not certain, but I doubt they even offer them anymore.

I also put over 700k on an early 90s Acura Integra (well I bought it at 350k). Did the clutch around 500k and replaced the master and slave cylinders. Exhaust started rotting off around 550k and I replaced it from the manifold back. When I finally got rid of it, it still ran just fine, but the back end was getting unsafe from rust (in Ontario we salt the roads so heavily it just eats your car).

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In my life the easiest vehicles to work on and find parts for has been Toyota, dont know about their new shit but the old trucks run good.

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Toyota is discontinuing their super reliable v8 and retooling their factories to make twin turbo v6's instead. I don't know what they're thinking.

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Toyota engines will last decades longer than the car itself.

If i got given a contract to buy a fleet of cars at the moment it would probably be Kias. Great gearboxes and nowhere near as plasticky and thin on the inside as corollas, 7 year warranty. Drove corollas at home for years but thr CVT in them now is utter fucking shit and they raped my local community by shutting down the 50 year old factory nearby, signed up with goget for a while and actually preferred their Ceratos.

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As a long time owner of an '85 4runner, an '88 landcruiser, and a '03 Tundra, I wholeheartedly agree. Easiest to work on, and parts are insanely easy to get.

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and now toyota has gone woke.

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Yep, it seems to happen to too many companies. I'm at the age now though that I don't see myself needing to buy a new one, maybe not ever.

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Toyota didn't really go woke. I had to research this to find out what really happened. Yota gave $ to many Republicans who challenged the election results. Totally normal, they give money to politicians. (NOTE: $ to politicians who are in the districts that have Yota factories, thus = republicans) Leftists screamed like Hell "TOYOTA GIVES $ TO RACIST REPUBLICANS CHALLENGING THE ELECTION RESULTS". Toyota said "Really? Are we not supposed to give $ to politicians???" Woke leftists said "NO, YOU CANNOT GIVE $ TO REPUBLICANS".

Yota said, "OK, whatever, we won't give them $ anymore". THAT IS IT, THAT IS ALL, SIMPLE---Yota won't give $ to Republicans who wanted to challenge election results.

To me, that is not going "full woke". I'll still buy a Yota, any day, all day, every day.

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88 toyota long bed pu 387000 still going . cake to work on

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pats for Toyota ONLY come from Japan. You will never find Toyota parts in a junkyard.

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Have you never heard of "pull your own part" junkyards? There are MILLIONS OF TOYOTAS in junkyards. THOUSANDS within 20 miles of me right now. Co- part .com, car-part .com, row 52 . com, I could go on and on.....

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side story for ya - we have a car auction mob called shannons, deals with specialist type stuff, did a training job for them once and their showroom had a bunch of interesting stuff, old racecars, but this drab olive fj40 like my old man had, thought it was odd, asked someone what it was about, dude had no idea said hed tell me later. Got back to me afterwards why it was special -

The owner had done half a 'Radar O'Reilly' and between Repco, Toyota and Gregory's maintenance manual, managed to hand build from OEM spares an FJ40 from ground up.

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