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Not really sure if I buy into it. Met some great people there, most are deranged trash and want to tell me how to live my life. I have met great people who shared how they were and how they got out of the active addiction. I have no reservations and understand for me I have the inability to drink like a good ole boy. I cant stop when I drink. It changes my personality to that of hell spawn. Think anger crying.

AA has helped for the past few years, lately its like living with the children of the corn. Commie cult. Not sure.

What do you think of AA or gay a as i call it? Does it help or hinder you? anyone you know?

This guy says different from the party line Orange papers

http://web.archive.org/web/20161202185738/https://www.orange-papers.org/

Your insight is greatly appreciated.

Not really sure if I buy into it. Met some great people there, most are deranged trash and want to tell me how to live my life. I have met great people who shared how they were and how they got out of the active addiction. I have no reservations and understand for me I have the inability to drink like a good ole boy. I cant stop when I drink. It changes my personality to that of hell spawn. Think anger crying. AA has helped for the past few years, lately its like living with the children of the corn. Commie cult. Not sure. What do you think of AA or gay a as i call it? Does it help or hinder you? anyone you know? This guy says different from the party line Orange papers http://web.archive.org/web/20161202185738/https://www.orange-papers.org/ Your insight is greatly appreciated.

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AA and NA have the same precepts you have to accept. Part of the problem is "religion" is taken to mean only Christianity, when really it just means a system of beliefs -- a "set of axioms" in mathematical terms. Most often these religions-in-all-but-name use innocuous "truths" as their basis, i.e.: "what happens between consenting adults is no one's business"

Anyway, as an example: in AA/NA you confess your sins to large groups of people, while (specifically) in Catholicism you confess your sins to one person. So what's the difference?

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Anyway, as an example: in AA/NA you confess your sins to large groups of people, while (specifically) in Catholicism you confess your sins to one person. So what's the difference?

Groups of people vs. one person(?), for one.

Religions require that you believe you're powerless to control your own destiny and for you you bend the knee to an all-powerful deity. AA/NA require that you believe you're powerless to control your own destiny and for you to seek the approval of a group of strangers.