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Not really sure if I buy into it. Met some great people there, most are deranged trash and want to tell me how to live my life. I have met great people who shared how they were and how they got out of the active addiction. I have no reservations and understand for me I have the inability to drink like a good ole boy. I cant stop when I drink. It changes my personality to that of hell spawn. Think anger crying.

AA has helped for the past few years, lately its like living with the children of the corn. Commie cult. Not sure.

What do you think of AA or gay a as i call it? Does it help or hinder you? anyone you know?

This guy says different from the party line Orange papers

http://web.archive.org/web/20161202185738/https://www.orange-papers.org/

Your insight is greatly appreciated.

Not really sure if I buy into it. Met some great people there, most are deranged trash and want to tell me how to live my life. I have met great people who shared how they were and how they got out of the active addiction. I have no reservations and understand for me I have the inability to drink like a good ole boy. I cant stop when I drink. It changes my personality to that of hell spawn. Think anger crying. AA has helped for the past few years, lately its like living with the children of the corn. Commie cult. Not sure. What do you think of AA or gay a as i call it? Does it help or hinder you? anyone you know? This guy says different from the party line Orange papers http://web.archive.org/web/20161202185738/https://www.orange-papers.org/ Your insight is greatly appreciated.

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[–] 11 pts

They require you to believe you are not responsible for your own actions and behavior

That right there is my problem with organizations like AA. You cannot solve your problems without first realizing that you - and ONLY you - are responsible for yourself.

[–] 3 pts

You cannot solve your problems without first realizing that you - and ONLY you - are responsible for yourself.

Completely agree.

[–] 4 pts

I looked up from AA.

This first step states, “We admitted we were powerless over alcohol and that our lives had become unmanageable.”

Absolute rubbish. I admire the effort made to help people overcome their problems, but giving them an excuse for it right out of the gate is a bad idea. To me, anyway.

Even the atheist version of AA has something similar but they leave "god" out of it.

[–] 3 pts

Surrender yourself to the AA so that the AA may guide you.

[–] 3 pts

Unfortunately many people are truly powerless and won't solve their own problems. Look around you today. Anyone still wearing a mask and people who got the poison shot are subject to mass mind control. These people, while not alcoholics, necessarily, simply are feeble minded and react to media suggestion. They are not in control of their own thoughts. They look to others to tell them what to do. These same people also are subject to diffusion of responsibility. That is, they won't take responsibility and assume other people are going to do it. The "Q" phenomenon was a good example of that. "Trust the plan"

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They are not powerless. They simply refuse to use their own power and instead choose to blame anyone else except themselves.

[–] 1 pt

I understand your thinking. I used to think that too. What is the difference between someone who is powerless and someone who refuses to act? The outcome is the same. At some point, you have to let go and move on. AA takes the position that people can't/won't act on their own behalf and ascribes blame to an abstract entity. This removes a force from action on behalf of the individual who won't act on his own accord. The media and elites understand this very well.

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There are plenty of other examples of people being the sheep that most people are.