If you think she’s a slut, trust your gut.
If you think she’s a slut, trust your gut.
Women stop their mental development in their teens. That's why so many lie, steal, and cheat for the rest of their lives. Some of them were not total shit in their teens. She sounds like bad news.
Women stop their mental development in their teens. That's why so many lie, steal, and cheat for the rest of their lives. Some of them were not total shit in their teens. She sounds like bad news.
I'm not sure that is 100% true. I think it seems that way sometimes because young women have all the sexual power in the relationships and men have none. They bring their bodies to the relationship men bring the skills and resources, it's not an equal exchange.
As we get older the power dynamic flips.
Men and women have co-evolved to exploit each other and maximize their mating potential in an assymetric way. Cognitively, the survival strategy for women means they pay attention to a different set of data of the world around them from men. For example, women are very high in neuroticism and negative thoughts because they are always in physical danger and are primed to notice infinite detail about the world around them because they are wired to get their child to survive to about age 5 to 7 using only their wits, their minds and their political / emotional saavy.
Men have a different set of roles in a relationship and society and are primed to notice details at a different resolution than women because we have to go out and hunt food and kill our enemies and help raise our children after about the age of 7 or so.
I think women are hypersmart but in a very specific domain.
If you listen to women have conversations with guys like Alexander Grace and Richard Cooper, you will notice that even the highest tier women (most beautiful / most accomplished, highest sexual market value) have absolutely ZERO comprehension of how a man thinks. But, ask the same woman about things she is an expert in and she will destroy the average man cognitively.
I don't believe this is a lose lose proposition. I think we have to start to accept women for what they are: women. We co-evolved for survival, we simultaneously exploit each other and complement each other.
I heard the greatest line from Seinfeld on one of his cars and coffee shows. He had a female comedian in the car and she asked him would it matter if his wife lied to him or something like that. He said something I like a lot: "The only thing that matters in a relationship is whether or not both partners have the others best interest at heart."
Which really kind of sums up a lot. It allows for both people the full spectrum of collaborative / competitive behaviour while recognizing that in order for the relationship to survive both partners must share the same goal. The moment one person in the relationships focus is not the best well being of the other, it's done.
I can see what you are saying, but I think that boxes women into a caricature that doesn't describe them at the correct resolution.
I'm not sure that is 100% true. I think it seems that way sometimes because young women have all the sexual power in the relationships and men have none. They bring their bodies to the relationship men bring the skills and resources, it's not an equal exchange.
As we get older the power dynamic flips.
Men and women have co-evolved to exploit each other and maximize their mating potential in an assymetric way. Cognitively, the survival strategy for women means they pay attention to a different set of data of the world around them from men. For example, women are very high in neuroticism and negative thoughts because they are always in physical danger and are primed to notice infinite detail about the world around them because they are wired to get their child to survive to about age 5 to 7 using only their wits, their minds and their political / emotional saavy.
Men have a different set of roles in a relationship and society and are primed to notice details at a different resolution than women because we have to go out and hunt food and kill our enemies and help raise our children after about the age of 7 or so.
I think women are hypersmart but in a very specific domain.
If you listen to women have conversations with guys like Alexander Grace and Richard Cooper, you will notice that even the highest tier women (most beautiful / most accomplished, highest sexual market value) have absolutely ZERO comprehension of how a man thinks. But, ask the same woman about things she is an expert in and she will destroy the average man cognitively.
I don't believe this is a lose lose proposition. I think we have to start to accept women for what they are: women. We co-evolved for survival, we simultaneously exploit each other and complement each other.
I heard the greatest line from Seinfeld on one of his cars and coffee shows. He had a female comedian in the car and she asked him would it matter if his wife lied to him or something like that. He said something I like a lot: "The only thing that matters in a relationship is whether or not both partners have the others best interest at heart."
Which really kind of sums up a lot. It allows for both people the full spectrum of collaborative / competitive behaviour while recognizing that in order for the relationship to survive both partners must share the same goal. The moment one person in the relationships focus is not the best well being of the other, it's done.
I can see what you are saying, but I think that boxes women into a caricature that doesn't describe them at the correct resolution.
you will notice that even the highest tier women (most beautiful / most accomplished, highest sexual market value) have absolutely ZERO comprehension of how a man thinks.
This is strikingly true. Feminists, in particular, assign motives to men that only make sense from a female perspective: "He's only doing that because [insert bewildering reason that would never occur to a man.] Women imagine that they understand men, but men know that they barely understand women.
> you will notice that even the highest tier women (most beautiful / most accomplished, highest sexual market value) have absolutely ZERO comprehension of how a man thinks.
This is strikingly true. Feminists, in particular, assign motives to men that only make sense from a female perspective: "He's only doing that because [insert bewildering reason that would never occur to a man.] Women imagine that they understand men, but men know that they barely understand women.
Just to add to this a couple of points:
I agree.
I think this is an excellent example of asymetric co-evolution. It isn't that women know what we don't and vice versa, it is closer to something along the lines of whay you said.
While I think in part this is a difference via evolutionary differentiation, it is also important to recognize when our women hand our arses to us when we overstep what we think we know about the world. There are a few women around here that have a far more sophisticated grasp on our evolutionary biology than a lot of us men.
By that I mean, that a lot of the difference in understanding has to do with the social roles that we play in society. Let's face it, all of civilization revolves around female reproductive organs and in a way women simply don't have to spend any time thinking about men. They can spend all of their time over-analyzing their half of civilization and it all works out because men just show up no matter what.
Or to paraphrase Richard Cooper, women don't care about your struggles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZEACtHLMI
Only posting Richard because he summarizes the words of others into reasonable sound bites.
Which is why I like your feminist point. They screwed over women because they can spend all of their time running around in circles convincing them selves of bullshit because at the end of the day men make everything and men make everything run.
Only in the last 5 years are we really seeing the consequences of femal self delusion as they struggle to take on male roles in society according to feminist standards. All of the SJW stuff is basically feminists trying to run things and beta males letting them.
Just to add to this a couple of points:
* I agree.
* I think this is an excellent example of asymetric co-evolution. It isn't that women know what we don't and vice versa, it is closer to something along the lines of whay you said.
* While I think in part this is a difference via evolutionary differentiation, it is also important to recognize when our women hand our arses to us when we overstep what we think we know about the world. There are a few women around here that have a far more sophisticated grasp on our evolutionary biology than a lot of us men.
By that I mean, that a lot of the difference in understanding has to do with the social roles that we play in society. Let's face it, all of civilization revolves around female reproductive organs and in a way women simply don't have to spend any time thinking about men. They can spend all of their time over-analyzing their half of civilization and it all works out because men just show up no matter what.
Or to paraphrase Richard Cooper, women don't care about your struggles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZEACtHLMI
Only posting Richard because he summarizes the words of others into reasonable sound bites.
Which is why I like your feminist point. They screwed over women because they can spend all of their time running around in circles convincing them selves of bullshit because at the end of the day men make everything and men make everything run.
Only in the last 5 years are we really seeing the consequences of femal self delusion as they struggle to take on male roles in society according to feminist standards. All of the SJW stuff is basically feminists trying to run things and beta males letting them.
I’m female and I agree with this.
I’m somewhere on the spectrum, which I believe makes me think more “manly” ... because I see chicks do this shit all the time and I literally don’t know where they get these ideas from! It doesn’t matter how smart they are either! It’s disgusting and utterly unavoidable. Women that don’t do it are few and far between. And when you do find them, there will be a trade off. Don’t expect a woman that doesn’t do it to remember your birthday ... ever.
Although I will say, as I get older, men do this shit as well ... maybe it’s because more men are becoming more feminine. Whatever it is, it’s even more infuriating. Talking a chick off the ledge is way easier than talking a pussified man off the edge. I depend on men NOT to act like women. When they do they look CRAZY!
I’m female and I agree with this.
I’m somewhere on the spectrum, which I believe makes me think more “manly” ... because I see chicks do this shit all the time and I literally don’t know where they get these ideas from! It doesn’t matter how smart they are either! It’s disgusting and utterly unavoidable. Women that don’t do it are few and far between. And when you do find them, there will be a trade off. Don’t expect a woman that doesn’t do it to remember your birthday ... ever.
Although I will say, as I get older, men do this shit as well ... maybe it’s because more men are becoming more feminine. Whatever it is, it’s even more infuriating. Talking a chick off the ledge is way easier than talking a pussified man off the edge. I depend on men NOT to act like women. When they do they look CRAZY!
Marriage will never be successful if a woman thinks she is equal to a man. Or vice versa. Equality is a lie made to weaken the traditional family. Men and women are different and cannot be equal. Women are envious of men's strength and intelligence. The fact that you wrote that long ass post proves that you think you are smart instead of accepting the limits of being a woman. No woman has ever scored 175 on an IQ test. Stop trying to be a man and enjoy being a woman. Be thankful that smart men exist and do your best to support them.
Marriage will never be successful if a woman thinks she is equal to a man. Or vice versa. Equality is a lie made to weaken the traditional family. Men and women are different and cannot be equal. Women are envious of men's strength and intelligence. The fact that you wrote that long ass post proves that you think you are smart instead of accepting the limits of being a woman. No woman has ever scored 175 on an IQ test. Stop trying to be a man and enjoy being a woman. Be thankful that smart men exist and do your best to support them.
Coherent. You are it.
Coherent. You are it.
You're a woman?
You're a woman?
I would be honest as I have been in the past. And I would ask the same question of the man.
I would be honest as I have been in the past. And I would ask the same question of the man.
I think the answer to your question is as varied as the women you ask. My advice is to listen to your gut. If you feel she's being dishonest there could be signals that you're picking up on a subconscious level. Then you have to decide whether or not it's your previous baggage causing undue suspicion or if you're picking up on actual dishonesty. Either way, never ignore that inner voice. Then you have to decide if it's a dealbreaker for you. God bless you and I hope it turns out well.
I think the answer to your question is as varied as the women you ask.
My advice is to listen to your gut. If you feel she's being dishonest there could be signals that you're picking up on a subconscious level.
Then you have to decide whether or not it's your previous baggage causing undue suspicion or if you're picking up on actual dishonesty. Either way, never ignore that inner voice.
Then you have to decide if it's a dealbreaker for you.
God bless you and I hope it turns out well.
Yeah that’s definitely an issue I must confront from time to time. I’m no stranger to lying whores, and have been suckered in the past. She seems like a keeper but we’ll see. Maybe it will just take some time for her to get comfortable with me.
Yeah that’s definitely an issue I must confront from time to time. I’m no stranger to lying whores, and have been suckered in the past. She seems like a keeper but we’ll see. Maybe it will just take some time for her to get comfortable with me.
You can't make a life with a woman who hides her past. If there are things she won't tell you, drop her.
You can't make a life with a woman who hides her past. If there are things she won't tell you, drop her.
One problem is those who lie to themselves - they might think they are being honest and just telling a version that is appropriate.
OP, what you should be doing is not asking her too many questions, but rather paying attention to how often you get that uneasy feeling about her and around which things. Someone who’s solid doesn’t inspire those feelings.
One problem is those who lie to themselves - they might think they are being honest and just telling a version that is appropriate.
OP, what you should be doing is not asking her too many questions, but rather paying attention to how often you get that uneasy feeling about her and around which things. Someone who’s solid doesn’t inspire those feelings.
I love how it's all men answering. Female here, I don't think talking about exes and past relationships is healthy. It creates unnecessary jealousy over a period in their life where you didn't exist. I don't want to know or hear about my partners' exes at all if I can help it, it only causes a mental image of your partner with another person which triggers an angry or upset emotional response in your brain. I don't want to know or hear about my partner's past sexual encounters, either. I want to know if he has a venereal disease and that's the extent of it and should be the same for you. Now if you've heard from the grapevine against your will that your partner has a reputation for being a slut, I think reputation is kind of a big deal and that should be questioned. Other than that, you shouldn't be asking each other your "body count."
I love how it's all men answering. Female here, I don't think talking about exes and past relationships is healthy. It creates unnecessary jealousy over a period in their life where you didn't exist. I don't want to know or hear about my partners' exes at all if I can help it, it only causes a mental image of your partner with another person which triggers an angry or upset emotional response in your brain. I don't want to know or hear about my partner's past sexual encounters, either. I want to know if he has a venereal disease and that's the extent of it and should be the same for you. Now if you've heard from the grapevine against your will that your partner has a reputation for being a slut, I think reputation is kind of a big deal and that should be questioned. Other than that, you shouldn't be asking each other your "body count."
You said reputation is a big deal. How am I supposed to know a new woman's reputation? I'm not interviewing her friends and Co workers. I'm meeting exclusively her on dates for weeks on end before I meet her friends who are usually on good behavior trying to make her look good. There's no way I'm going to figure out a woman's reputation. All her friends and family will know what her deal is.... I'll be left guessing. I could ask her but you think that's a bad idea?
Kinda tough situation there. I think nunber if partners is closely correlated to likelihood of divorce. Women with 10+ partners statistically have a difficult time with pair bonding and have a horrible relationship with their father. Not always but usually.
You said reputation is a big deal. How am I supposed to know a new woman's reputation? I'm not interviewing her friends and Co workers. I'm meeting exclusively her on dates for weeks on end before I meet her friends who are usually on good behavior trying to make her look good. There's no way I'm going to figure out a woman's reputation. All her friends and family will know what her deal is.... I'll be left guessing. I could ask her but you think that's a bad idea?
Kinda tough situation there. I think nunber if partners is closely correlated to likelihood of divorce. Women with 10+ partners statistically have a difficult time with pair bonding and have a horrible relationship with their father. Not always but usually.
You aren't going to know everything about a person when you first meet them or from a few dates, that's life. People are an investment of your time. There are a number of factors that can be linked to divorce statistically, such as if the person's parents divorced while they were a child. Would that mean you'd weed out everyone who dealt with that? I hope not. Get to know her and her values, does she believe in divorce? What steps would she take if a relationship was heading south? Those are questions you can ask to get a better idea of who she is. Please trust me when I say you don't truly want to know her number of partners. Even if it's lower you're still going to breed jealousy issues in yourself and want to now know "who" these men were and you end up playing investigator. It's just not worth it.
You aren't going to know everything about a person when you first meet them or from a few dates, that's life. People are an investment of your time. There are a number of factors that can be linked to divorce statistically, such as if the person's parents divorced while they were a child. Would that mean you'd weed out everyone who dealt with that? I hope not. Get to know her and her values, does she believe in divorce? What steps would she take if a relationship was heading south? Those are questions you can ask to get a better idea of who she is. Please trust me when I say you don't truly want to know her number of partners. Even if it's lower you're still going to breed jealousy issues in yourself and want to now know "who" these men were and you end up playing investigator. It's just not worth it.
If she's a hoe she will hide it if she's not she will tell you the truth. Honestly your best bet is seeing what kinds of friends she has. How you both met and how quickly you both got sexual are also reliable.
If she's a hoe she will hide it if she's not she will tell you the truth. Honestly your best bet is seeing what kinds of friends she has. How you both met and how quickly you both got sexual are also reliable.
I would be honest cause I'm not a skank.
I would be honest cause I'm not a skank.
I'm honest because I have nothing to hide. I stand by my decisions and history.
Ask her more about her upbringing, which parent she liked more growing up, what her beliefs are and what they used to be. See how she changed over time and piece together a loose timeline of the person she has been. This will help you get to know her better and understand her values and how she obtained them. If she seems like a bad person for most of it, bail. She's probably lying.
Though maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised to get to understand her deeper. Hopefully she a keeper.
Good luck!
I'm honest because I have nothing to hide. I stand by my decisions and history.
Ask her more about her upbringing, which parent she liked more growing up, what her beliefs are and what they used to be. See how she changed over time and piece together a loose timeline of the person she has been. This will help you get to know her better and understand her values and how she obtained them. If she seems like a bad person for most of it, bail. She's probably lying.
Though maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised to get to understand her deeper. Hopefully she a keeper.
Good luck!
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