This is a great point.
Men and women have co-evolved form millions of years that not only shaped our bodies but our minds and behaviours as well.
When you study white men / white women using the big five psychological approach (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/big-5-personality-traits), men tend toward conscientiousness while women tend toward agreeableness and neuroticism.
We men will often catalog all the psychological features that make them different from us and just leave the list as a list. Often the list is full of negative sounding connotations, for example, even the big 5 has the word nuoriticism in it which has negative connottations.
I have a big problem with just leaving lists as negative catalogues of features because they miss the point: white men and white women are co-evolved for survival at the physical and psychological levle.
Men are more conscietious, maybe, but that is a function of having to go out, organize a raiding party and either raid the next village over for resources or hunt food and bring it back. If you aren't able to bring back food for a week, little ones die.
On the other hand, women have a very different set of pressures on them. Women have to find a man and have children VERY VERY young. Before modern nanny state civilzation of the last 50 years, women had to bear children at a very young age. This means a womans survival HIGHLY DEPENDED on her choosing a man that has ANY LEVEL OF COMPETENCE to provide for her and the children. Before the nanny state, men have to get the bacon and women have to raise kids, raising kids is a full time job and depending on a man to bring back the income?
Things like neurosis and all theother lists in this thread are true. But, they are features of white women that have a dynamic relationship with their white men.
In listing all of the female featues in this thread, which are bloody accurate (great job everyone), what we are also simultaneously saying is that either our men have failed us and gave up their leadership roles in society and families or something else happened that has made men loose that level of control.
What is also interesting about this thread is how we all know what is wrong at a deep deep level. We also know how to fix it.
The last 50 years we've devolved if you believe your half-baked theory. Societal changes have been forced.
Can you expand on how you think the change was forced? What changes do you think need to be implemented to re-balance the equation?
Enforced monogamy. It was a key feature, maybe the key feature to wypipo evolution for at least the last several thousand years. Polygamy (including casual extramarital sex and divorce) is a cancer. Monogamy is the fix.
That and maybe more cowbell.
In listing all of the female featues in this thread, which are bloody accurate (great job everyone), what we are also simultaneously saying is that either our men have failed us and gave up their leadership roles in society and families or something else happened that has made men loose that level of control.
It's plastics in the food and water. They have feminized men and made them less willing to take control, which has allowed women to assume leadership positions. Of course this tendency has been accelerated by social factors, such as the Jew-created woman's movement, but at the root of things the shift of power from men to women is biological. We have been poisoning ourselves and our children for fifty years with plastics that mimic human hormones and feminize men.
You know, I have been thinking about his for a while as well. The romans were poisoning them selves with lead plumbing and when I learned in the 90s about estrogen in plasting I wondered if this was the same thing.
The poisonings occuring have very little to do with the state of men being a man as God Almighty called him to be. It has everything to do with men being Godless. Men need to humble themselves before Jesus Christ before they can step into the role of a righteous man.
So maybe get back to glass containers and correct conservatively with synthetic steroids. Testosterone patches for your 12 year old boy. If they can do it, so can we.
We men will often catalog all the psychological features that make them different from us and just leave the list as a list. Often the list is full of negative sounding connotations,
We have that list too. Its been appropriated as DNC party platform.
Honestly feminist’s criticisms of men are often valid to an extent. In spite of what is asserted around here, males are not any more virtuous than women, they just have different survival strategies that come in to conflict with women’s survival strategies often. Obviously we have to negotiate comprmises or go extinct.
We depend on culture to help mediate intersex conflict and that culture has been hijacked and exploited by jews to loot our society more effectively. They are truly at the heart of this miscommunication between men and women. But I digress.
Neuroticism is, I imagine, a very useful trait when you are trying to keep a little baby alive.
On the other hand, women have a very different set of pressures on them. Women have to find a man and have children VERY VERY young. Before modern nanny state civilzation of the last 50 years, women had to bear children at a very young age
My recent research on female marriage age within monogamous vs polygamous societies, and in particular NW europeans does not agree with that. Parish records show mean marriage age to be ~23 for women for the last 6 to 8 hundred years, and Tacitus puts marriage age of germanic tribes at 20 during the Roman empire. This is a feature of monogamist societies. Just sayin. It aint 13.
It may be that the heavier reliance of females on males in cold climates constrained european societies to be monogamous and caused white males to take a more K strategy along the r/K continuum.
Whites are high trust and highly cooperative and have created highly stable prosperous societies that everybody likes. Black, jews, muzzies, latinos, are not capable of accomplishing that by themselves. But now instead of distributing the wealth and stability at the familiy unit level, we have (re-)distributed wealth at the individual level through an overly bloated dysfunctional bureacracy.
The bureacracy is no longer a lean efficient means of organizing and coordinating the wealth production of our economy; it is an end unto itself, a feudal aristocracy supported by serfs making useful stuff which is confiscated and redistributed by fat, power-tripping out-of-touch karens that man fake bureacratic jobs, just welfare-busywork. Social workers, therapists, lawyers, insurance agents, loan officers, teachers, etc. Their usefulness is doubtful. This is where all the women have gone, but they aren’t contributing anything useful, on average.
Men are still bringing home the bacon but its being taken from them and handed to some lebian communist librarian, who might have been his wife in another time.
The bureacracy is fake and gay. Its been expanded by jews to gain power over the economy. It doesnt make any wealth directly. Women have sidled up to the free gibs window by getting jobs in the bureacracy and they lack the self awareness to see the they are economically nearly worthless in these sorts of positions. I had a bureacratic job, it was fake and gay.
What an exceptional write up. Agreed.
I did not know the stats on average age of white marriage, that is interesting. Note: my reference to having children at a young age I was referring to the pressure to find a husband and have children before the end of their 20s.
Perhaps we have infantalized our society to such a degree that people in their 20s still seem child like to me.
Well I had a few trad guys assert to me that white women were really meant to be getting married in their mid teens historically, and that we were “too jewed” to want women to wait until their 20s.
So that compelled me to do some research. Were white men really historically that perved? Were we just a couple centuries away from basically kiddie fucking muzzies? I wondered.
Of course we tend to be aware of the marriage habits of european elites like the Borgias or the Tudors. But it turns out that arranged marriages between young teenagers or a young teenage girl to an older man was practiced mostly by elites. The commoners tended to self select mates and church records show staggeringly late (IMO) marriage age since the middle ages with women at around 23 and men being close in age to their brides at around 25 or 26. In britain, on the continent and in colonial america.
This is in direct contrast to what you see in muslim societies where the brides are very young and there is a large disparity between husband and wife. These traits seem consistent for other monogamist/polygamist societies.
We have gotten used to putting off kids until very late but we are in a real population crisis so I think we need to go back to an older strategy and bring the numbers back up.
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