We men will often catalog all the psychological features that make them different from us and just leave the list as a list. Often the list is full of negative sounding connotations,
We have that list too. Its been appropriated as DNC party platform.
Honestly feminist’s criticisms of men are often valid to an extent. In spite of what is asserted around here, males are not any more virtuous than women, they just have different survival strategies that come in to conflict with women’s survival strategies often. Obviously we have to negotiate comprmises or go extinct.
We depend on culture to help mediate intersex conflict and that culture has been hijacked and exploited by jews to loot our society more effectively. They are truly at the heart of this miscommunication between men and women. But I digress.
Neuroticism is, I imagine, a very useful trait when you are trying to keep a little baby alive.
On the other hand, women have a very different set of pressures on them. Women have to find a man and have children VERY VERY young. Before modern nanny state civilzation of the last 50 years, women had to bear children at a very young age
My recent research on female marriage age within monogamous vs polygamous societies, and in particular NW europeans does not agree with that. Parish records show mean marriage age to be ~23 for women for the last 6 to 8 hundred years, and Tacitus puts marriage age of germanic tribes at 20 during the Roman empire. This is a feature of monogamist societies. Just sayin. It aint 13.
It may be that the heavier reliance of females on males in cold climates constrained european societies to be monogamous and caused white males to take a more K strategy along the r/K continuum.
Whites are high trust and highly cooperative and have created highly stable prosperous societies that everybody likes. Black, jews, muzzies, latinos, are not capable of accomplishing that by themselves. But now instead of distributing the wealth and stability at the familiy unit level, we have (re-)distributed wealth at the individual level through an overly bloated dysfunctional bureacracy.
The bureacracy is no longer a lean efficient means of organizing and coordinating the wealth production of our economy; it is an end unto itself, a feudal aristocracy supported by serfs making useful stuff which is confiscated and redistributed by fat, power-tripping out-of-touch karens that man fake bureacratic jobs, just welfare-busywork. Social workers, therapists, lawyers, insurance agents, loan officers, teachers, etc. Their usefulness is doubtful. This is where all the women have gone, but they aren’t contributing anything useful, on average.
Men are still bringing home the bacon but its being taken from them and handed to some lebian communist librarian, who might have been his wife in another time.
The bureacracy is fake and gay. Its been expanded by jews to gain power over the economy. It doesnt make any wealth directly. Women have sidled up to the free gibs window by getting jobs in the bureacracy and they lack the self awareness to see the they are economically nearly worthless in these sorts of positions. I had a bureacratic job, it was fake and gay.
What an exceptional write up. Agreed.
I did not know the stats on average age of white marriage, that is interesting. Note: my reference to having children at a young age I was referring to the pressure to find a husband and have children before the end of their 20s.
Perhaps we have infantalized our society to such a degree that people in their 20s still seem child like to me.
Well I had a few trad guys assert to me that white women were really meant to be getting married in their mid teens historically, and that we were “too jewed” to want women to wait until their 20s.
So that compelled me to do some research. Were white men really historically that perved? Were we just a couple centuries away from basically kiddie fucking muzzies? I wondered.
Of course we tend to be aware of the marriage habits of european elites like the Borgias or the Tudors. But it turns out that arranged marriages between young teenagers or a young teenage girl to an older man was practiced mostly by elites. The commoners tended to self select mates and church records show staggeringly late (IMO) marriage age since the middle ages with women at around 23 and men being close in age to their brides at around 25 or 26. In britain, on the continent and in colonial america.
This is in direct contrast to what you see in muslim societies where the brides are very young and there is a large disparity between husband and wife. These traits seem consistent for other monogamist/polygamist societies.
We have gotten used to putting off kids until very late but we are in a real population crisis so I think we need to go back to an older strategy and bring the numbers back up.
That is incredibly useful to know. It speaks the beautiful nature of our ancient peoples and our ancient cultures. I appreciate you sharing that.
When we sweep away the bullshit deepities "hey heres a list of nonsense i read about" and are honest about the male / female roles in our society you kind of start to see that white men and white women want the same path forward.
That is a truly beautiful thing.
Which is what ALL OF THIS is all about. It's about keeping our focus away from each other, away from our culture, our communities, our history. Some of it is absolutely architected and planned, some of it is the outcome of network effects (or the ratchet principle as someone in another thread taught me about) getting us to this point.
The suggestions you keep on making just make incredible practical sense.
I think everyone here is kind of dancing around the obvious: we all KIND OF understand or predicament on a whole bunch of levels INCLUDING from an evolutionary perspective. We get details wrong, but because we are white, we fight it out and hash out the truth.
While I really enjoy the conversations here and in other places, we all kind of sense that the time is now to start building something more substantial. I have some ideas on this, mostly captain obvious stuff at this point in time:
There won't be one magic strategy. We will need to define many strategies (as a community and as a people) and see what works.
The key problem is actually going to center around access to the financial system. Just look at what the lovely couple over at Red Ice have endured. In fact, that is really the majority of the issue.
I think we are going to have to drive a huge portion of this through our religious institutions. Religions have special protections under the law and we will need those protections to help us on the legal front. Besides, christianity has embedded within it a bastardized set of some of our ancient religious and spiritual practices, it may be time to disembowel the jew from the bible and grow some new spiritual roots from our people based on the seeds that were nearly lost to time.
I'm writing this mostly because you are the first I have met here to have a grasp of the practical. Your post about enforced monogamy is one of those insights that cuts very close to the bone. You can read all throughout history where a simple tiny change in cultural norms results in huuuuuuge problems and disasters for cultures. This feels like one of those insights. I had the priviledge to visit family in far eastern Europe where people still live in small ancient villages and it did not take long to kind of figure out that the social rules in a small village exist for a reason, one of which is precisely as you put it: enforce monogamy.
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